This is why so many women voted Trump

[BabyLlamaZen]

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s worth the horrors of the Trump administration (and what other women’s rights will be abolished). However, I can also empathise. Books like this are everywhere in baby sections of bookshops in USA. My american friend is naturally more conservative than myself although hated Trump and didn’t vote for him previously (she abstained and then she went Biden although she says she seriously regrets) and this time she voted Trump. She said this stuff is now everywhere and it’s constant. She also showed me a baby’s ABC book which included B for bisexual (and literally then described it as people who are sexually attracted to either gender). For babies.

Take responsibility for his election. The blame for it lies squarely at the feet of misogynistic ideologues like yourself.

I see... so the blame for Trump's election lies on me: - a person who deeply opposes everything Trump stands for.

Meanwhile, people on this thread who express support for Trump because they share his transphobic agenda - they are the ones promoting fewer votes for Trump?

Make it make sense.

Transgender trend is not a source of accurate, objective or scientific information.

JKRowling is sponsored by the Chinese.
Elon Musk is a Russian agent. (He may well be a useful idiot but that's another story).

The overwhelming majority of trans people do not regret their treatment.

That is yet another lie. In truth, we don't know how many do, because they are forced not to speak out and detransitioners are bullied and told to 'kill themselves' by transactivists. Since many opt out of the system, and these gender clinics conveniently don't keep tally, we don't truly know. However one hospital in Sydney (Westmead Hospital) put the detransition/desist rate at 42%.

That's quite the assertion.

What do they say that you consider inaccurate, subjective and unscientific?

Do you have examples?

Out of interest, where do you get your 'scientific information' from? Transgender Trend is quoting research from other organisations. They're not sitting at their desks making it up.

Neither. These particular bot farms target right-wing issues, and right-wing commentators talk about those issues. There are some - very few - left-leaning bot farms as well.

Well at least you are honest about that!

Oh wait that's not what you meant is it? Oops.

Yes. These are the stark facts of the issue that continue to shock me whenever I see them clearly laid out like this.

I always, also, ask myself- "what would all this look like, seen through the eyes of myself/most people only 20 years ago?" And really imagine and sit with that.

Just adding this relevent talk to your post BonfireLady (on brain development at puberty):

There is no 'transphobic' agenda. There is no 'transphobia'. Not wanting children to have tumours, lesions, cancer, micro genitals, lower IQ and Osteoporosis at age 24 for a mental health issue and social contagion, and not wanting women and girls to lose our safe single sex spaces and fair sport is NOT 'twwansphobia'.
'Transphobia' is an invention of the patriarchy. It doesn't exist outside of that. The more misogynists like you promote an agenda that destroys children health and rights, and women and girls rights, the bigger the pushback. You are to blame. Own it.

Peer reviewed academic journals and books and medical/ health bodies.

Transgendertrend is a third sector advocacy/ campaigning organisation.

I'm suggesting that many of those who decide they are 'trans' are not in fact trans. They don't have gender dysphoria and therefore transitioning won't solve anything, it will further disrupt their lives without addressing their underlying issues. This is the inevitable outcome of telling people that gender dysphoria is not necessary to be trans.

It's no different from someone with stomach pain having small intestine removal when in fact they needed some Gaviscon. Doesn't cure the heartburn, adds a whole lot of new pain.

Do you understand the purpose of this thread @Tandora? I mean before you took it in a very different direction. We've discussed these issues ad nauseum on this board over years. This specific thread was started to explore why women in the USA voted for Trump. I think they wanted more money in their pockets and they are tired of people telling them the sky is green when they can see it's blue. They're tired of the Democrats wasting time on word salad instead of focusing on majority concerns. I really understand their frustration right now! The narcissism of tiny minority groups expecting reality to be rewritten for their benefit and the Democrats pandering to this, instead of addressing the much greater issues affecting the majority.

Now you are claiming that there is no such thing as transphobia?

Thank you for highlighting it. I'm proud of what I said and stand by it. It's only the truth.

Yet I doubt you'll do any self reflection yourself. Not even the election of Trump has given you pause for thought. You're too far gone to use self reflection or reason.

We should treat people (particularly young people) carefully, taking into account other distressing psychological or physiological conditions they may have, which they may interpret as their “being trans”.
Of course, before this social contagion took hold, the vast majority would never have thought such a thing. Our evidence for this is that they really didn’t, other than a very few boys who do seem to have had a deep seated and enduring discomfort - but, in medicine, it’s unwise to generalise from the extraordinary to the ordinary. (When you hear the sound of hooves, think horses, not zebras.)

We have to remember that the continuing promotion of the 'trans child' is very important for trans ideology. It's used to legitimise the transition of adults.

I'm suggesting that many of those who decide they are 'trans' are not in fact trans

So do you accept then that some people "who decide" they are trans, are in fact trans? If so, do you believe that transitioning may help those people?

Peer reviewed academic journals and books and medical/ health bodies.

If that were true, you'd take note of what the Mayo Clinic says, and they disagree with you entirely.

This. To think women like Trump is mistaken. But he's promised to clean up the trans movement in schools. That they can get on board with.

You are proud of saying that there is "no such thing as trans", and it's preferable that these people are in a psychiatric institution?

Hmm. Why have all these kids needing treatment come from? Where? 🧐

What?

Absolutely, because there isn't, its a social contagion and mental health issue. Which is why these people need mental help, not their delusions indulged. Who wouldn't be proud of stating the truth.