This is why so many women voted Trump

[BabyLlamaZen]

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s worth the horrors of the Trump administration (and what other women’s rights will be abolished). However, I can also empathise. Books like this are everywhere in baby sections of bookshops in USA. My american friend is naturally more conservative than myself although hated Trump and didn’t vote for him previously (she abstained and then she went Biden although she says she seriously regrets) and this time she voted Trump. She said this stuff is now everywhere and it’s constant. She also showed me a baby’s ABC book which included B for bisexual (and literally then described it as people who are sexually attracted to either gender). For babies.

The Democratic Party is responsible for this. Not Biden, not Harris, not the voters, THE PARTY.

Very true. Biden has been mentally and physically compromised for a reasonable period of time and Harris has been invisible until she finally stepped forward when it became too difficult for the party to handwave Biden's difficulties away.

So who was in charge?! It feels like it was rudderless and led by a) fear of saying/doing the wrong thing and b) being seen to be modern and in touch, rather than actual decision and policy.

Seems to me that education has no bearing on support for women's rights.

Can I just point out that Trump won by thin margins

🤣 he made massive inroads in all demographics and the states he won he won nearly all of them comfortably. And won the popular vote for the first time in three elections.

Most educated people don’t feel threatened by the transgender population

No one who considers gender ideology when voting feels threatened by the transgender population. They consider the impact of males in female spaces and the impact of the medicalisation of children.

Wait til the Latinos existence starts being questioned

Latinos shifted massively to Trump. They consider other issues and policies to be important, like the economy, not identity.

Do you have any answers to the questions I asked you?

Wait til the Latinos existence starts being questioned

Latinos are socially conservative. The they/them ads actually targeted this group.

Some women wouldn’t have one themselves but support the right to one for other women nonetheless.

Yes, but I thought we were talking about all the Midwest Christians and Latina Catholics who voted for Trump?

Can I just point out that Trump won by thin margins

You appear to have been watching a different election to me.

First of all : the votes are not all in and whether Trump won the popular vote is still in question . Fact !
I am American and I know no one who feels threatened by transgender females . Why ? Because they are female .
Latinos , like I said , will soon be questioning their vote . They will be stopped and they will be asked for their paperwork and have to validate their existence . They won’t feel very free or patriotic then .

If it's that trivial, that easy, that unimportant, then rejecting it out of hand will be barely noticeable. So you needn't worry.

This, with bells on.

I am American and I know no one who feels threatened by transgender females . Why ? Because they are female .

Women who identify as men? Well no I don't feel threatened by them. But I don't want men in my female spaces, however they identify.

I am American and I know no one who feels threatened by transgender females . Why ? Because they are female

If you read the links in the thread, you’ll appreciate that many of your fellow Democrats don’t agree with you.

Most educated people don’t feel threatened by the transgender population .

Most people recognise that sport needs to be fair and that medical interventions should be based on sound research. It's not about "feeling threatened", it's about what's fair and ethical.

What is an "educated person"? IME academic qualifications are largely irrelevant when it comes to common sense and fairness. There are plenty of university graduates who lack the former, for example.

Wait til the Latinos existence starts being questioned . They will have to prove their existence and if their paperwork isn’t just right they could end up in containment camps or prison

Both Trump's and Harris' policies on immigration (including those already in the States) are unclear. Same in the UK. Nobody has an answer on immigration and unfortunately a lot of positives surrounding immigration get overlooked e.g. in the UK we're facing falling birth rates, so immigration of working age people is potentially a net positive. I don't know enough about the US economy to have a view on this but it's worth not forgetting the irony that modern America is built on immigration (unless of course you're from the indigenous population, where it's built on invasion, smallpox and western arrogance).

Because they are female

Can you post evidence of this from a medical journal otherwise it’s just faceless nonsense.

Can you answer the questions I asked you?

With regards to children being medically transitioned, what percentage of the total US population would it need to reach before it becomes a concern to you?

Do you think sterilising children and removing their future sexual function is the answer to make these children happier?

How many women and girls need to be negatively affected by a male before it matters?

Reposting this tweet from Kara Dansky - for swing voters trans ideology, the rejection of it, was a big reason why they voted Republican.

I’ll bet that the Democratic Party doesn’t need this, and doubles down on identity politics though

Most educated people don’t feel threatened by the transgender population

You mean the elites. Most elites don't feel threatened by transgender population because they are so far removed from the realities of needing single sex services.

The elites can flirt with gender and ignore the young women having experimental surgery and taking drugs that damages their bodies.

These elites can mess with childen and write and commission books telling children its possible to change sex, because they are perverse enough to lie to children.

It's nothing to do with how educated or intellectual someone is, its how moral they are.

Not posting, I’ll look the article again

@Danja2010 Can I just point out that Trump won by thin margins .Small percentages . Most educated people don’t feel threatened by the transgender population . It is the religious right and the undereducated .

So, all these people posting on this thread are religious right and undereducated?

😂

"Only stupid people think that men can become women".

Hmm... Yeah sure.

Forgive the terminology but you'er ballsy!

Because they are female .

What makes someone female? Is it having an F in their passport (like the IOC say) or is it something else? If so, what?

I am American and I know no one who feels threatened by transgender females . Why ? Because they are female .

Transgender females - men who identify/feel/want to be women.

Also known as MtF.

A born woman cannot be a Transgender woman.

Why?

Because she is not born a man.

She cannot go FtF.

Ergo - sex is the key.

Even for the transgender folk!

@Danja2010

Fair dues to you though @Danja2010 . You are getting a pasting and taking it well.

A warning though - I was you ten ago.

Once these witches make you see you can never go back.

Mind how you go...😁

from a survey of swing voters, who voted Republican. Also voted upthread, but the woke-scolders don’t read threads, esp those by the uneducated 🙄

Democrats were punished for inflation, misalignment on immigration and cultural issues, and Biden. The top three reasons not to vote for Harris were:

1. “Inflation was too high under the Biden-Harris Administration” (+24)
2. “Too many immigrants illegally crossed the border under the Biden-Harris Administration” (+23)
3. “Kamala Harris is focused more on cultural issues like transgender issues rather than helping the middle class” (+17).

https://blueprint2024.com/polling/why-trump-reasons-11-8/

the whole article

It's very encouraging for women that quite a few states voting for Trump for president also voted in pro choice bills to protect women's rights to abortion. It suggests there may be places in the world where women will have full human rights not have to trade off child sterilisation / the right to say no to men in women's spaces/ rapist males locked up with women prisoners vs abortion rights. It makes me feel quite hopeful in a way I haven't in a while.

This shows the Democrats were talking bollocks about Harris being the one who'd protect abortion rights. Anyone with half a brain knows the fastest way to protect women's lives is now via state bills and presidential race name calling over this is more likely to harm that than anything else.

Florida was close too. The fight has to focus on state law and that will likely prove more stable than roe vs Wade. Trump has explicitly and repeatedly said he won't try for a federal abortion ban, despite the misinformation and lies about this.

Trump has explicitly and repeatedly said he won't try for a federal abortion ban, despite the misinformation and lies about this.

Are there quotes from Trump that back this up, @Dumbledoreslemonsherbets ? Not doubting you but I'm keen to see examples. I can't remember if it was this thread or another about the election which mentioned "Project 2025" and how woolly things were WRT to federal intentions on abortion.

In an ideal world, it would be reverted back to abortions being permitted at federal level, similar to the UK law. However, back in the real world (following the overturning of Roe v Wade) it's probably better left as is, at state level. I can't imagine a Republican government pushing for federal pro-choice rights, but I can imagine a Republican government avoiding the issue and deferring to the status quo re state-level laws.