Imane Khelif medical report reported in Reduxx

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https://reduxx.info/algerian-boxer-imane-khelif-has-xy-chromosomes-and-testicles-french-algerian-medical-report-admits/

it's a bit complicated, then: 'I'm a woman who just happens to be chromosomally etc male, and who just happens to refuse to ever conform to female gender norms, particularly those of my own culture/country'.

Male boxing coach? Love of football? Is that usual for women in that part of the world?

Even if you choose to ignore that the most feminine thing about him is his beautifully groomed eyebrows.

Piers Morgan and others have picked up on it now so it will become mainstream soon.

But Reduxx always get forgotten about being the initial news breakers when things like this happen.

Additionally, people's private medical matters also come up in the Paralympics and when they fail drugs tests. Top level athletes don't get the same type of privacy about their bodies as the rest of us can, and they know that going in. Strangers can turn up at their homes to watch them piss!

Puffy, I will wait patiently to see which competitors continue to play in any female boxing championship that excludes male people through a testing process in the future. There is plenty of speculation about quite a few of the boxers competing in the female competition. I suspect if sex testing came in and the regulations excluded male people who have had a virilised puberty, there might be a significantly different competitive field for the female boxers.

I am not going to speculate any further than that.

However, I remain unconvinced by Khelif's own actions that they believed they were female but I accept that other people are convinced that Khelif believes they are female.

Absolutely this.

Reported On the same day Rutherford et al write a "letter to the editor" and call it a "paper," about being kind to males in sport.

Love Gia's response.... (Brian Cox's partner.)

x.com/giagia/status/1853464921654084005?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Adam Rutherford is a total embarrassment

love Gia

Ah yes, the "Mandatory sex testing isn't feasible!" article comes out the same day as this news.

Covered in the Independent here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/genetic-testing-sport-international-boxing-association-imane-khelif-b2640885.html

This 'paper' is a response to "an editorial by a group of scientists in the Scandinavian Journal of Medicine and Science in Sports (SJMSS) proposed the introduction of sex chromosome testing amid what it described as a “growing concern” over the participation in female sport of athletes with an XY difference of sexual development (XY DSD)."

“The editorial gives the impression that such tests are straightforward – ‘individual consent, confidentiality, and dignity… simple cheek swab… standard medical care’, but these assurances ignore the enormous problems such a testing regime would generate,” the group wrote.

They argue that under the proposal for mandatory genetic testing for sport eligibility, “young athletes would not be presented with a genuine choice” and some would be subjected to invasive examination by gynaecologists.

“Consent is only a coercive offer: comply with the test or never participate in competitive women’s or girls’ sport, even at sub-elite level,” they wrote.

They also question who would pay for and produce the “worldwide army of counselling expertise” required to operate an ethically responsible genetic testing programme.

“For those undergoing follow-up clinical examination and genome sequencing….how would the devastation of young athletes’ personal identity and self-esteem, and the alarm caused to their families, be managed?” they wrote.

“The resultant duty of care of these athletes will fall to the sport federations mandating such assessments, without any realistic prospect of being fulfilled.”

According to them, sex testing would mean that some of these males would "never participate in competitive women’s or girls’ sport, even at sub-elite level", and their "personal identity and self-esteem" would be devastated if they were to undergo sex testing. Not a word about the effect on women and girls of having biological males taking their places in sport and sometimes inflicting harm on their female opponents.

Women don't seem to be fully human in the eyes of these misogynists.

There's also suggestions that IKs parents are blood relatives too, which can cause genetic issues - would that include DSD's

And it must be horrific to have it constantly plastered all over the news.

But if there had been honesty from the start (and I blame the coaches and spotters here) we would not have this situation.

BlairH_phd who also co authored is a trans athlete/ researcher it seems

A man.

He should be stripped of his medal. Jordan Chiles was stripped of her medal a few days after the Olympics (bronze medal for floor exercise, gymnastics) after a judges error so there’s no reason for him to keep his medal

IIRC recruiters seek out places where DSDs like this one are likely because of this inbreeding.

Consanguinity increases the risk of hereditary diseases including DSDs

There's a study published in the Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology in 2021, for a start, specifically on the molecular genetics

I deactivated my X account but I'm sure Sharron Davies has plenty to say about the cheek swab which everyone seemed to be just fine with until 1999.

Oh, furthermore as I think we figured out, this is what was being alluded to with the "living in the mountains" remark or whatever. Recruiters know there are pockets of cosanguination due to geographical features where a small population lives in an isolated place.

“Consent is only a coercive offer: comply with the test or never participate in competitive women’s or girls’ sport, even at sub-elite level,” they wrote.

And this is different from drug-testing, how?

Some mistake surely! He was on the front cover of Vogue, that must mean he's a woman 😲

It became international news in the first place because Reduxx picked it up. They are a phenomenal group of fearless journalists who thoroughly investigate their stories, have them well sourced, and do so in the face of abuse from males who don’t want the truth to be revealed. They are the main reason we know about most of the “it’ll never happen” stories.

They deserve massive respect. It should the case of “I’ll only give it credence when Reduxx publish it” not the other way round. If so-called major news organisations or journalists from “proper” sources did their jobs properly, Reduxx wouldn’t have to. They deserve a Pulitzer or equivalent for everything they’ve done.

Well Quelle fucking surprise!

How exactly was this person "born a woman"?

I feel for IK, but they should not be allowed to compete in women's boxing.

Would add that I do have a certain level of sympathy with IK on a personal level. I'm sure they probably were raised as a girl, they may still believe they are a woman on some level..it cant be easy being born with a deformed genitals or dsd anywhere but especially in cultures that have even more rigid gender stereotypes. As a pro athlete they may have been brainwashed and fed all sorts of bollox by the teams around them, for they are often not the brightest of buttons. This is a mess if the IOC's making. But what can female boxers do? An international boycott only harms women's boxing presumably and achieves what the patriarchy clearly wants which is females not boxing for sport. These women won't get another shot as they are in their prime now.