Trans activists gatecrash women's rights rally as they protest speech by Kellie-Jay Keen at 'Let Women Speak' event in the home of suffragette Emily Davison

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Trans activists gatecrashed a women's rights rally held in the hometown of suffragette Emily Davison today.

Around 70 women gathered in Carlisle Park, Morpeth, Northumberland, this afternoon for a Let Women Speak (LWS) event, spearheaded by women's rights campaigner Kellie-Jay Keen, aka Posie Parker.

But they were met by counter demonstrators shouting through megaphones, who wore masks, waved flags and held placards which read: 'Transwomen are women'.

Organiser of LWS, Posie Parker, took the microphone and said: 'Some women are coming to speak using some words, and some spoiled brats are trying to stop us.

'We just want to speak about our rights. We want to speak about our spaces, our sports, our children, our safety.

Those people over there are from the elites and are trying to shut us up.

'Most of us are from relatively normal families who have to pay a mortgage, pay bills.

'They haven't sent us to a nice university to mess around with our fees and our grants and to come and harass middle-aged women.'

During the speeches, the counter protestors shouted: 'You're not radical, you're just d*heads.'

They blew whistles in an attempt to drown out the gathering and also shouted 'get off the stage' and 'get some new material'.

As Ms Parker took the microphone, she was branded a 'fascist' by the counter group.

A handful of women spoke about issues including schools, women's rights and the concept of being non-binary.

This is only bits from an article at https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13955045/trans-gatecrash-womens-rally-home-suffragette-emily-davison.html

I cant find anything else about this, but its quite late and I'm a bit tired so may have missed something.

Looks like the police weren't that well prepared, or had thought not many would turn up.

A real shame, as (no insult to Morpeth) going to smaller places is a positive action by LWS. Rather than assuming everybody can get to the nearest big city.

Hope everyone is okay.

Well incitement to violence is actually a crime, so...

suggestionsplease1 · Yesterday 20:31

Does it not tackle a country's failure to protect citizens from discrimination?

Who has she committed an act of discrimination against?

Don't want to encourage the thread derail, but for anyone interested: there are very basically 3 areas of law being muddled.

• Criminal law, eg incitement under the Public Order Act;
• UK civil law, eg employment, contract, tort, housing, where discrimination may be relevant; this dovetail with the HRA, but the latter is the legislation that has to be followed by public authorities; - - - international human rights law, ie in this context the ECtHR which looks at applications in relation to member state breaches of the Convention.

There is therefore no law that would support police to act against someone discussing and disagreeing with current discrimination laws. (much as many police forces would I'm sure like to have that power)

Just to put the (auto generated by YouTube) transcript of the Kellie Jay Keen / Posie Parker video down now:

If you work in a shop if you own a small
0:02
business if you own a
0:04
funeral um home or if you own a salon
0:10
that has mostly female clients if not
0:13
all female clients or whatever if you
0:16
own a hairdressing Salon if you own a
0:19
beauticians I want you to be able to
0:22
discriminate as much as you like against
0:25
a man who calls himself a woman who
0:27
wants to work in fact I would advise you
0:30
to also not employ anybody who claims to
0:33
have body uh dysmorphia so much so
0:36
they've cut their own breasts off
0:38
because I don't know anybody who works
0:39
with somebody who calls themselves trans
0:42
who doesn't find that person lazy
0:46
entitled and difficult to work with
0:49
because actually those people are not
0:51
employees they are activists first okay
0:54
so let me just be really clear I don't
0:57
care I I don't I as a if I owned a house
1:01
there is no way I would rent my house to
1:04
somebody who called themselves trans I
1:07
just wouldn't because I know that they
1:09
will use everything in their power to
1:11
probably not pay rent so you lovely
1:14
people you can talk about your trans
1:17
rights if you want you can talk about
1:18
not discriminating you can talk about
1:20
how you want everyone to wear what they
1:22
like and call themselves at what they
1:24
like and all this stuff and I'm just
1:26
going to tell you I don't feel that way
1:29
I you know I think wear what you like
1:31
but except the consequences that you
1:33
won't be accepted by the majority of
1:36
people who will think you're weird
English (auto-generated)

So, clearly more than discussion of and disagreement with discrimination laws, but very clearly meets a reasonable person's judgement of incitement to discrimination - advising wholesale employment discrimination against a population based on their protected characteristic of gender reassignment:

"I would advise you to also not employ anybody who claims to have body dysmorphia so much so they've cut their own breasts off
because I don't know anybody who works with somebody who calls themselves trans who doesn't find that person lazy entitled and difficult to work with"

"Incitement to discrimination" is an identified and recognised expression In the European Court of Human Rights Hate Speech Case Law

"Incitement to discrimination is a form of incitement to intolerance, which, together with incitement to violence and hatred, is one of the limits which should never be overstepped in the exercise of freedom of expression (Zemmour v. France, 2022, § 50"

The UK Government has stated that it “is committed to membership of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR)"

Too weird, didn't read. I suggest formatting it.

I suggest watching the video for the fullest impression

From the bottom of my stone cold heart, I don't give one flying fuck about men who wish me dead and their housing or employment rights. So you can type the words and post the videos as many times as you want. but the reason I feel like this is the 7 years of rape and death threats from these utter fucking mentalists.

Hope that helps.

This, with bells on.

Agreed.

😂 Yep. (and that's a far more fun answer than my boring legal one!)

So go and report her then.
What do you want people here to say?

It's persistent and deliberate derailing of a thread which has as its topic the assaults and threats made by misogynist men towards women speaking in a public space.

It's an absolute travesty and you should be ashamed of yourself honestly.

Extremely amused at the idea that the police could prosecute KJK for "inciting discrimination". Tell you what - why not try reporting that as a crime and let us know how you get on?

I suspect that people who identify as trans face bigger problems than KJK anyway. Employers will look at the antics of people like that Starbucks employee and make a quiet decision that they don't want to take on staff who behave like that.

Nope.

'Gender reassignment' is a protected characteristic.

Gender reassignment

(1)A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the person's sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex.

(2)A reference to a transsexual person is a reference to a person who has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/7

In a nutshell.

"The elites"
What is that even supposed to mean? They're people counter protesting against a rally (whether you agree with that or not is by the by)
Why the othering, the insinuation that they're part of what, an elite?!
Like the "we're just middle aged ladies" having a get together.
You'll be having us all cooking chickens and wiping our hands on our pinnies next.
We're not all one big group, women are individual people and the narrative always spun around all of this is 🙄

That's what's so insidious about all this

Who are you talking to?

Tofuself presumably

I was there. The police were excellent and seemed well briefed. Enough resources to deal with a relatively small gathering of TRAs. Women felt safe, unlike Edinburgh LWS where we were kettled and surrounded by TRAs! certainly no soup splashing round this time.

It's literally in the speech in the opening comment.
That the thread's about?!
That's what I was referring to.

What, all trans people want that?
No they don't.
It's not acceptable to lump all other minorities into one big negative group like that, whether it race, or sexuality etc so why do you think it is here?
It's just pure bigotry at this point.

Oh no, not bigotry? How will I cope?

Usually thrown in with all the rape and death threats. Which it is perfectly reasonable to object to.

Did any trans people write to and complain about the Scottish Politicians standing in front of the 'decapitate TERFS' sign? Please bring your receipts.

The group are publishing statements from members who took part in the cricket release.

Today's calls for 'escalation' and speaks of an 'urgent need for militant trans activism'. Looks like incitement to violence.

The struggle for trans and queer rights? Spearheaded by militancy and taking what we deserve?

Erm love, it was slipped in because a man sued for the right to marry another man, and a law which allowed a lie to underpin it was born. Then more fetishistic men paid the biggest law firm in the world to design guidance to get these laws enacted across the world to get laws changed by stealth.