LGB Alliance conference disrupted by TRAs

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Do these idiots really think they are clever.

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1844755779665948762?t=8n-3lIZxX9BIED6MRh9pGg&s=19

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Trans activists have just disrupted the annual Conference being held by LGB Alliance by releasing insects in the main hall.

These nasty individuals who seek to disrupt a peaceful conference of lesbian and gay people show themselves up to be the real bigots.

It's possible for heterosexual people to support gay rights, you know. Trans rights are completely unrelated to gay rights.

In their 2022 survey only 20% of their supporters identified as heterosexual.

Considering the importance of "allies" in the LGBTQ movement, surely it's fine for the LGB alliance to have het allies?

Or are we doing double standards?

The attendees today were very obviously predominantly gay, lesbian and bisexuals and the content of the conference was about protecting the right to define ourselves as same-sex attracted and to protect the individuals who identify as such. There were panels discussions about the experience of being gay in different decades, court cases that impact our right to define ourselves and the standards of medical care for gay youth, among other topics.

Ambiguous post. Do you mean LGB Alliance or Mermaids only have 7% LGB members. If the latter I can well believe it.

Either way, evidence please otherwise your post is just noise.

Well quite.

They obviously got the memo.

"Alright guys, that court case caught us out 😱😱, can a few more of you put down that you are gay men / lesbians when we send the next survey out? Please and thank you, thank you, ta muchly, muchly 🙏🙏🙏🙏 😅😅"

@Christinapple Well Mermaid failed in arguing its case that LGBA was undermining other peoples rights.

What is more Mermaids are under investigation as a charity over safeguarding so one would be pretty lacking in critical thinking to rely on their position.

It was not revealed it was alleged. As stated above there are supporters (20%, (like me) as well so what is wrong with that.

We do not as supporters want to talk about trans people at a conference about being gay in modern society.

There is no justification for this disruption.

I wonder if some of the allies who were watching them sleep on street outside the DfE have been helping them to plan this?

@suggestionsplease1 I don't think you are correct, Gay people set it up, but so what if you are right? why do TRA’s have to disrupt groupings they do not agree with?

Like it makes any difference to trans lives - it does not.

They have to disrupt groups whose views they don’t agree with because they are intolerant of different views. It must be painful to not have the belief that you have changed sex reinforced by everyone around you.
And because some are violent men with a fetish and others are caught up in a self righteous social justice movement without any degree of self awareness or maturity.

It's hard to take you seriously with all the emojis, but are you actually accusing LGB Alliance of encouraging supporters to lie, because that's quite an accusation? Do you have evidence to support your claim?

It would not surprise me at all if these girls get the book thrown at them for hate crime and abuse of animals.

Why?

Because we care more about cruelty to animals than women getting punched, and it's girls who are responsible for this anyway.

Meanwhile a bloke can punch a woman in the face and nothing happens.

To me there is a broader picture, we are in a time of illiberalism, where right can be left and left can be right, where freedom of expression, and even freedom of thought are under threat.

I hold my line as a Marxist thinker but i find, i have compadres, on this issue, right left and centre (excuse the pun)

And the TRAs in their narrow world see this gender bender stuff as some kinda political liberation. But it is not, for the masses we are mostly hetro, or gay and struggling financially.

it is truly a post modernist agenda gone out of control not attached to any reality

This. And despite the efforts of the many intellectual giants of the trans movement, that is how most normies will see it.

@DrudgeJedd i love your name BTW

Intellectual giants ha ha

I used to get a bit annoyed at Graham Linehan when he called TRA groomers, but I look at those kids and see people who've been groomed by dangerous older people with nefarious motives. The irony doesn't escape me that kids like these, swallowed up by this Manson type movement, are the very kids LGBAlliance was (in part) set up to protect and advocate for. It's all so totally fucked up.

Reader's note:

LGB Alliance & the 7% misrepresentation

This is a statement released by LGB Alliance about that 7% statement made in court.

One particularly sticky myth is that only 7% of LGB Alliance supporters are lesbians. Here’s how that started:

We were delighted to be able to support Allison Bailey at her tribunal in the form of a witness statement to help prove that gender critical people are likely to be women and lesbians. As part of that we shared some numbers from our newsletter subscriber list.

We used Mailchimp to send our newsletter and when we set up our account in 2019 we added some subscriber questions which, as it turned out, provided us with ambiguous data.

We asked people whether they were lesbian, whether they were lesbian/gay or if they preferred not to say. The flaws being that we couldn’t tell whether those who ticked lesbian/gay were men or women and that none of the fields were compulsory – so many people skipped them altogether.

The result was that we had 4,502 newsletter subscribers and 316 ticked the box describing themselves as lesbian. That’s 7% of the total. A further 949 ticked the box lesbian/gay and 1,427 were unspecified or preferred not to say. Based on that data that means that between 316 (7%) and 2,376 (53%) of our subscribers were lesbian.

The 7% figure was used in court because it’s important that evidence is based on provable fact and it is a fact that, at a minimum, 7% of our subscribers were lesbians. However, common sense told us that that number was really much higher.

In August 2022 we commissioned a survey of our subscribers to help us plan to deliver services and support to LGB people. One of the questions we asked was about sexual orientation. That data showed that 34% are lesbian, 33% are gay men, 12% are bisexual, 20% are heterosexual and 1% preferred not to say. We are satisfied that this data is robust."

This '7%' has been constantly misrepresented by a few posters who have been on these threads before. They know how this figure was derived. However, because they have their own very deeply entrenched prejudice about the LGB Alliance, they keep trying to misrepresent the demographics of the supporters of the LGB Alliance.

That says more about them than it does the LGB Alliance.

And those posters attempting to then try to twist 20% heterosexual supporters as being somehow worthy of discrediting LGB Alliance's work seem to then forget that if Stonewall could categorise all their supporters, all their donors, what % would this end up heterosexual? And this would have to include any person who purchased any product that then contributed to Stonewall, or any work place that took donations. It is a very weak argument to discredit a LGB charity.

But some posters still think that it is a convincing argument to discredit an LGB charity they disagree with. Well, they probably don't think it is really convincing, what they think is that someone will read it and think it reliable / relevant and will have a negative view of LGB Alliance. Which is ultimately their aim in spreading what is fuckwittery. That is misinformation due to the significant misrepresentation in light of the full context and accurate facts.

And sadly, it is some people spreading these types of misrepresentions and misinformation that cause activists to then try to disrupt the events held by LGB Alliance. It never seems to sink in though, that feminists don't try to disrupt events for transgender people. And feminists don't protest at conferences for transgender people to meet at.

Could it show something about the respect for others in general that transgender rights activists have? Could it show the assymetrical tolerance levels of different groups in society?

Gay people are not permitted to speak about themselves or for themselves without them being attacked.

Reflect on this next time someone says 'being trans, is just like being gay'.

So many gay people disagree with this and felt that transactivism hurt their interests, they set up an organisation to advocate for themselves. Only for it to be actively targeted by trans activities.

Why don't TRA's have their own public conference?

. . . because everything they do is secret and private and seeks to disrupt. It would be interesting to hear what they actually talk about other than how to stop other people talking. I'm not sure they actually have anything positive to say.

Top posting, Helleofabore.

ETA: The statement can be found on the LGBA website.

I can't think of a public conference, but there was the cotton ceiling workshop....

Why don't TRA's have their own public conference?

Because projection. And now that a bunch of silly kids have done this they will expect a bunch of middle aged ladies (or their allies!) to do worse back to them.

Apologies if this has already been posted. From Glinner's twitter. It appears that Freda Wallace and Sarah Jane Baker were involved. Does anyone know of thos counts as a breach of Baker's licence conditions?

I can't think of a public conference, but there was the cotton ceiling workshop....

There was a U.K. public conference (though fairly secret) in 2018. Attended by Jane Fae, Dr Adrian Harrop, Edward Lord and others. Dawn Butler MP was the keynote speaker.