Why do all trans discussions end in a bun fight?

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I have a natal daughter who is a young adult. I try to keep an open dialogue with her as her thoughts are changing as she gets older.
She is not causing any discord to anyone. I try to help when desparate parents ask simple questions about their LGBTQ DC ( this week it was about getting a job). Within a few hours there are big fights re toilets and rape crisis centres. Yes these things are horrifying but every bloody thread gets high jacked with these points of law. There should be a subject category for parents of adult trans people. This would allow issues to be discussed without the OP being subjected to accusations of ideology or affirmation. I don't believe my DD is better as a male persona but I can't and won't bully her to accept my feelings override hers. She's still my DC and all subjects are open to reasonable and lawful discussion. MNHQ can you please list a new category so people don't feel attacked and bullied?

But can you see that it affects, and harms, many other women? And that feminists, by definition, want to prevent harm to women?

Yes, those outdated sex stereotypes were quietly fading away, with until transgenderism suddenly slammed this very welcome movement into reverse.

I am still stunned by the way decades of progress were overturned by a fierce but tiny minority demanding obeisance to an ideology nobody really believes. And most bizarre of all, this me-centred ultra-liberal ideology is backed by people who claim to be left-wing.

I was more curious that OP's DD had learned all about cooking at 3. Scones are nice - and quite difficult to make (unless you like quoits with cheese in).😊

What is a Manny?

A nanny who is a man.

i thought that was pretty common to be fair. At 3, mine was making their own pikelets and mini muffins with supervision. Probably helped that my MIL was a home ec teacher to be fair.

Do you mean dealing with batter on a hot griddle? Wow!

Luxury! At 3 we were mining our own iron ore to make the griddles...
sorry couldn't resist

@DrBlackbird If someone suggested I was reinforcing gender stereotypes and I didnt intend that I would not claim their post was abusive. I might say read my other posts, I agreed that it's silly to label hobbies.

Why do you think OP started claiming "abuse" when it was not?

Yep. We was hard task masters. Made them push the chairs up to the stove on their own and all!!

of course, they were assisted. And of course, they were supervised.

Nah, but we would send our kid up the chimney to sweep it.

Strangely most of my family are miners, now that you mention it.

In NE Scotland, it's just a 'man'. And a woman is a 'wifie'.

I am impressed. That's serious cookery. Well done!

They loved it. That was the thing.

They would cook everyday if we let them then. Now as a late teen? Forget it. Even though they are an excellent cook. 😉

Yes as I mentioned, I’m often impressed how calm some FWR posters remain in light of emotional accusations. How they engage seriously and refute/discuss point by point. Other posters can be more reactive/sensitive/defensive when feeling under attack. For example, I think the OP was already feeling on the defensive and I’m not sure what the point in starting the thread was, but also there has been some criticism of the OP on this thread, which, in my opinion, was not wholly warranted. I get that others disagree and that the OP hasn’t come back to clarify.