"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

[crimplepop]

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

Yes. Because I find it absolutely fascinating that someone who is held up as such an effective women's rights activist posts what she does. That's also why I post on here. It's very interesting to me.

Do you think attempting to curb freedom of speech is democratic? Because it seems to me that that’s part of the aim of the ‘scrutiny’ on threads like this?

Sorry, I thought it was rhetorical. I think freedom of speech is essential to democracy, as is analysing such speech and the implications of it.

If I agree with one aspect, say let women speak, but disagree with another, say supporting a misogynistic rapist in another countries election, I think it's quite legitimate to say so. I'm actually quite glad that kjk made clear her support for Trump, as I cannot countenance supporting a political party which aligns with him. So while I agree and admire let women speak events, I can not support the party of women any longer.

Ok so what do you want to happen here?

Do you want women to stop having a platform with LWS because you don’t agree with KJK?

Thanks for clarifying. Absolutely understand where you’re coming from with that.

No. Not sure why you are saying that. It's a bit of a strawman, isn't it?

No it’s not, I’m asking what you want. Do you want LWS to end or not?

Do you think that a woman who speaks at those events is Trump / Nazi adjacent or don’t you?

No it’s not, I’m asking what you want. Do you want LWS to end or not?

Have no opinion on it. Its entirely up to whether enough women find it useful and attend.

Do you think that a woman who speaks at those events is Trump / Nazi adjacent or don’t you? Some probably are, most probably aren't. I really wouldnt know enough of them to have an informed opinion. KJK speaks at them and is an open Trump fan for example. Again, it is irrelevant to me. People can hold whatever opinions they like.

exactly this. I'm not used to talking to people like this

Like what?

I replied to that post pointing out I did not show that inconsistency

exactly

yes, it has been a boiling frog situation hasn't it, I'm glad it is now clear

Has KJK spoken about her support for Trump at a LWS event in the UK?

I wasnt aware she had made pro-trump comments until this thread.

I doubt many people are unless they follow her on twitter.

wrt to the message of adult human female = woman then it’s clear that that no longer aligns with the political left. Which is a great shame isn’t it ?

@lifeturnsonadime

Do you think that a woman who speaks at those events is Trump / Nazi adjacent or don’t you?

I don't, not necessarily more than a sample of ordinary people. They may be more politically aware simply due to the fact they are going to LWS events, though. What about you?

Sorry, your questions are confusing me so I'll decline to continue with this. I didn't bring up LWS events, I responded on a thread about KJK tweeting Trump was the only hope for America. And I've answered your questions in good faith but I'm struggling to understand why you are asking now

Oh right , sorry I’m confusing you. I thought, given your interest in trying to paint KJK as Nazi aligned across multiple threads would make the reason behind my questions pretty obvious, but never mind.

I'm not interested in "painting her as Nazi aligned"
I'm interested in the levels of denial within parts of the GC community around her links with the far right and Trump. As PP said, it's been a boiling frog scenario.

Stop strawmanning my views please. It feels like you are trying to pick a fight.

No I don't, I think freedom of speech is essential in a democracy and I get quite fed up with certain parts of the political left who seem to think that only those who agree with them have the right to speak.

There has been an attempt to paint KJK as Nazi aligned. I don’t think there is any evidence to support this.

Im not trying to pick a fight I’m trying to understand your position.

I've yet to see any concrete links to the Far Right apart from 'oh well big racists turned up to one her events (uninvited) so that must mean she's part of the Far Right'. And 'her and Tommy Robinson both agree that the world is round!'. 🙄

Well this thread is about her vocally promoting a sex offender for POTUS so I'm not interested in rehashing that either. Pretty sure everyone still posting on here is well aware of the arguments for/against her "associations" with the far right. What even is the far right anyway?

In so far as her slogan that someone complained about up thread is concerned , which is woman = adult human female, do you think that she would be able to gain so much political traction in the first place if the ‘left’ were more open to discussing the very obvious harms to adult human females posed by gender ideology? Because I don’t.

Say what you want about her but the left has left an open door with that one with it’s constant fawning over men who claim to be women and their wants!

OK. Well I've said multiple times on here that I don't think her support for Trump should be viewed through a left/right prism. I can't understand why someone saying she cares about women would support Trump. KJK knows this, she knows its not defensible because she's made the talking point about "child mutilation" instead.

She's sold out in my opinion and put her politics ahead of women. Specifically by supporting Trump, a misogynist sex offender who says he'll put in place a dictatorship.

Now I’m no fan of Trump by any stretch but I don’t think he actually said he’ll put in place a dictatorship.

He did make a quip about being a dictator ‘only on day one.’

You shouldn’t have to exaggerate to make your point Cassie, it’s not helpful.

i just wish the left would do better on this issue, why do they leave the door open on this? It’s truly baffling.

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2024/07/31/does-donald-trump-really-want-to-be-a-dictator-.html

Hmm. I listen to what people say and don't write off harmful rhetoric as "hyperbole" or "provocative".

If someone says they are going to "end voting on day 1" and tells supporters "you won't have to vote again", that's pretty clear to me. Certainly so clear that I'd not vote for them due to the risk of a dictatorship.