"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

[crimplepop]

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

You are responsible for your children’s behaviour so no, you shouldn’t ignore them. That’s your job.

Lisa Nandy and Stella Creasy are members of parliament so they shouldn’t be ignored either. They are supposed to serve us (ha ha ha).

KJK doesn’t fall into either categories. Her questionable behaviour can be ignored quite easily other than to people who keep
starting threads about her it seems.

KJK stood for election and heads a political party in the UK.
She's launching a similar party in the US.

At the moment she's pivotal to a court case around a political party in Australia.

Of course her actions are of interest to people following politics and gender ideology.

Also, as has been pointed out, OP on this thread hasn't been back. So noone here "keeps starting threads about her".

So odd that we can't discuss her.

I'm not sure the of course stands

I mean some on here are very interested in her but as someone who does talk about gender ideology and politics that doesn't apply to me and I doubt I'm alone

She is a figure on X who has many followers. And has people talking about her on mn and other media which helps her reach

Other than that she is very much down the list of things I follow

Not everyone I agree with on one topic is someone I agree with about everything. I like KJK, she's interesting and does not pretend to be either a feminist such as I am, nor is she left-wing, as I am. She has a very serious point about the effects of gender ideology - just now in the headlines in Australia re Giggle v Tickle and also Hanson trying to get an amendment passed to make it clear 'sex' is the protected characteristic, not 'gender'. In the UK we are interested in these things - and Australia is part of the Anglo-sphere, which is under particular attack from gender ideologists; it is easier in English to insist on daft pronouns because the language is not inflected (I think that's what I mean) as to sex/gender in ways that e.g. French is.
Edited for stray 'e's.

I mean this politely, but if you aren't interested, how come you are following and posting on the thread?
I read loads on MN that I don't comment on and really only post on topics I find interesting. Not enough time in the day to read and post on topics and threads I'm not interested in

Australia is in the gender mire with that case and policy, and worrying may set precedent in other countries

Well that's the beauty of mn I can follow this thread and be bemused at how much people follow KJK without actually being one of her followers on X

That's SM for you. People get to choose what they interact with.

I don't follow her on X either! Her account is open, anyone can have a look

I find this kind of deflection so interesting. In the lead-up to the GE just a few months ago, posters were falling all over themselves to follow where she was up for election and hoping there was a POW candidate in their electorate to vote for.

Now? They really don't care about her, apparently. Wouldn't know what she's doing. Shrug. Next.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not stupid. I just wish posters would discuss issues with clarity and honesty here, that's all.

I have never followed her on X

I didn't vote for her party

My feelings are consistent

You find it surprising that more people followed her movements when there was a general election on?

I would consider myself broadly her supporter when it comes to her speaking events and YouTube and other media channels, but she does a lot of stuff, and people on MN and Twitter who don't like her are often more up to date with her actions than I am 🤷‍♀️

Same. I am interested in the LWS events where the wonderful ladies get up to speak despite the goons screaming abuse at them.

Yes I'd say this is to be expected for any party

Wrt to the election I think it’s good that she made some people think about issues that might not otherwise occur to them.

I also, like others, think that unless you intend to provide another platform for women to have a public voice about issues that affect us, castigating KJK and, by association LWS, is an attack on freedom of speech.

I'm somewhat interested in what KJK gets up to, else I wouldn't be posting on this thread, but not obsessed, as others clearly seem to be. As for discussing issues with honesty, that barb is pointed in the wrong direction.

Someone who puts themselves up for election deserves scrutiny. It isn't "castigating" or an "attack on freedom of speech" to scrutinise politicians and activists. It is in fact the opposite and essential to healthy democracy.

She’s not standing for election now yet these threads continue.

Do you think attempting to curb freedom of speech is democratic? Because it seems to me that that’s part of the aim of the ‘scrutiny’ on threads like this?

When the leaders of parties that failed to gain traction at the ge, continue to be party leaders, then their utterings are of interest. If they don't want their thoughts to be discussed, then surely they wouldn't put them on social media. To discuss their speech is not a threat to free speech. Disagreement is not cancellation.

She's just put a video up calling for candidates
And she's launching in the US. Do you think politicians only work at election time?

How do you think exactly this thread is curbing her free speech? Do you have the same concerns about threads criticising the Green party, for example?

i didn’t say disagreement was cancellation.

What I mean is the fact that posters want us to condemn KJK and LWS by association will result in the loss of a platform for ordinary women’s voices.

A woman who uses that platform sin’t automatically Trump/ nazi adjacent & may not even be aware that KJK had tweeted in favour of Trump (not that that’s against any law).

So disagreement isn’t in itself cancellation but constant suggestion that someone who isn’t in agreement with you should not have a platform & use that to give a voice to ordinary women can most definitely be seen as an attempt to curb free speech.

Do you check often rather than follow?

I have zero inclination to look

The point re more activity at GE is that it would be expected. I see no inconsistency in terms of interest during that time. Same for any party.

I don’t agree with the Green Party on women’s rights and think it would be better if they would concentrate on the environment but no I don’t think they shouldn’t have a platform.

I certainly wouldn’t go on threads attempting to shut them up.

And why shouldn’t she be able to ask for candidates ?

I also notice how you’ve declined to actually answer my question 🙄