"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

[crimplepop]

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

I just said they are a minority because a PP said it was an entire generation.

But it is an entire generation. It’s not an entire generation being medicalised, but it’s an entire generation who have been lead to believe medicalising their peers is the appropriate course of action.

If you're willing to hand democracy over to a wannabe dictator because he might sign an executive order you'd like, I don't know what to tell you.

But I’m not. I didn’t say that, did I? I’m not a Trump supporter, not American, can’t vote for him and wouldn’t vote for him. What I am pointing out is why people might. Why are people so willing to hand democracy to someone who helps criminals transition on their say so in prison, putting women at risk?

It’s the framing. It’s always “why Trump?” endlessly. Never any haranguing of women voting for Harris.

This is what I responded to;
the next generation of kids to be mutilated, sterilised, castrated or indoctrinated. Yes. Well done. Finally. Get the fucking bunting out.

It's not an entire generation experiencing those things. If you know anything about the States, you know how important Christianity is, especially the evangelical type. There are large areas of the country where that's what kids are being indoctrinated with, not trans ideology. Christians often home school their kids to avoid those kind of influences, or send them to Christian schools. Then there are kids who come from many other religious backgrounds, who are also not likely to take the bait on trans idelogy.
So no, it's very far from being a whole generation.

Okay, so you're not for Trump. I apologize for thinking you might be.
As for why so much criticism of Trump, that should be obvious. It's because he's a rapist, a racist, a far right authoritarian nut ball, a narcissist, a pathological liar..etc. ad nauseam.
Harris looks like an angel as compared to him.

An amusing thread, for all the wrong reasons.

Harris looks like an angel as compared to him.

But again, this is framing issue.

Who wants children to be sterilised? Harris does! Trump doesn’t.

Who wants teenage girls to be able to have their breasts removed? Harris does! Trump doesn’t.

Who wants male prisoners to transition and be in women’s prisons? Harris does! Trump doesn’t.

So with this framing, who looks like the angel and devil here?

Harris has not stated she wants those things, so that framing would be misleading at best.
I also don't make judgements of a candidate based on a single issue. I consider that a sign of myopic extremism.

Who wants 12 year old rape victims to carry their baby to term?

Who wants to separate children from their parents at the border?

Who wants a woman to bleed out from a miscarriage?

Who wants a disabled woman to lose her health insurance?

All Republican policies above.

And who wants to make the U.S. a dictatorship?

Single issue voting IS not a smart strategy. A voter has a duty to consider all the impacted people of their vote.

I agree with your point about single issue voting but many others don’t. And I am pointing out that it’s all to do with the framing of things and what matters to people in these discussions.

A voter has a duty to consider all the impacted people of their vote.

I don’t particularly agree with this and I think it’s a very idealistic view unfortunately. And if you’re a parent whose child has been caught up in trans ideology and medically transitioned and cut you off, why would you vote for a party who want to make this a reality for others? So of course emotion and single issues take over.

Harris enacted policies for prisoners in California, and Wales did for kids in Minnesota, and Rachel Levine is still there as far as I can see, so if you take “Harris” to mean “a Harris administration” like we do when we say these things (it wasn’t Obama personally who single-handedly enacted the Affordable Care Act) then absolutely, they want those things.

Okay. I think KJK is in the payment of Republicans. You can't see this tweet and think otherwise. It refers to a face-off a few years ago between an Indian elder and a 16 year old called Nick Sandmann.

"This photo was pivotal in sorting the truth seekers from the weak minded masked brained sheep."

x.com/theposieparker/status/1835436666846150697?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

You mean allowing gender reassignment for prisoners? That has nothing to do with children.
I assume you mean Walz, not Wales? As VP he has almost no power, unless Harris dies while in office.
I will grant you Levine is an absolute kook. One can only hope she'll be put out to pasture by Harris for being too controversial.

That has nothing to do with children.

It doesn’t matter. What matters is Harris is for this and Trump isn’t. So for the people who really care about women being locked up with men, it matters that Harris supports this.

Ditto Walz (typo). He supports transitioning children. He may not have direct power, but he would have a deciding vote in the Senate. What if a bill comes through where his vote in the Senate matters?

So why aren’t there an endless number of threads about how this potential administration are supporting these things? It’s only ever an endless number of threads about how dare people possibly support the potential administration that will oppose these things.

As things stand, based on past actions and lack of statements opposing, a potential Harris/Walz administration and a wider Democrat party, both at federal and state level, supports medical transition of children, removing children from non-affirming parents, removal of safeguarding practices (remember the Loudoun County rape?) and the housing of males in women’s prisons. Why is there never any framing of how intolerable this is? Or castigating people here who tweet their support for them despite this?

I will grant you Levine is an absolute kook. One can only hope she'll be put out to pasture by Harris for being too controversial.

She? He has already been shown to be completely unprofessional in his involvement with WPATH to remove age limits on treatments for children. Hugely inappropriate behaviour. So if you don’t want government officials with huge bias interfering in the medical treatment of children, do you take a punt and cross your fingers Harris puts him “out to pasture” or do you vote for someone you know for sure will ditch him completely? Levine could get promoted by Harris. How can people vote for a party that might do that?

More importantly, how is it reasonable to castigate people who want to make sure that doesn’t happen?

Sorry. Momentarily forgot he was a trans.

As I said, I'm not a one issue voter, so that kind of rhetoric is wasted on me. You could equally ask how anyone can vote for a party which is okay with women in emergency rooms dying because doctors are too afraid to treat a miscarriage or a deadly complication of pregnancy. That's not a might happen situation, either. It's already happening. Maternal mortality in states with more draconian abortion laws is significantly higher, as is infant mortality. Yeah, I'd go with the party less likely to kill women and children, thanks. I could go on and on with the vile things Republicans are responsible for. That list would be considerably longer than a similar list for the Democrats.

You're accusing me of castigating somebody?

Source for maternal/infant mortality;
www.axios.com/2023/01/19/mothers-anti-abortion-bans-states-die

NotBadConsidering, that's twice you've implied I've been "castigating" people.
Please stop saying that as I have done no such thing.
Thank you.

No I haven’t. I am speaking about the theme of threads like these. Why do repeated threads like this exist, castigating KJK and those who don’t condemn her enough but there aren’t endless threads about people on Twitter who post support for Harris et al, castigating them here and all those who don’t condemn them enough?

You momentarily forgot the man who basically told WPATH to remove their age restrictions was a man, aye course you did.

Honestly, I think it's KJK's arrogance that eats at me. Someone who is not an American, from across the pond, proclaiming she knows better than we do in our own backyard. She is sitting pretty in her own country with national health insurance and access to abortion and telling us what we should prioritize? The fucking gall.

You can go tell her straight on her twitter if you want. Or call her up and tell her.

So you’d also condemn the endless posts of British based mumsnetters offering their opinion on threads like these then? Saying why Trump is bad or not, why Harris is good or not?

If it’s arrogant to tweet about voting in the US once in a while, it must be off the chart arrogant to post endless threads and posts about a once in a while tweet about voting in the US, shouldn’t it?

One more thing...guns.

Republicans fight tooth and nail to have no restrictions- even when Trump has now had 2, yes 2!! assassination attempts on him.

Like Trump, my family has had 2 gun attacks-but in our case, both people died. Both in their teens. I am extremely emotional about gun violence. It's deeply personal because we have been devastated by it. Two needlessly dead kids are two too many.

If I were to be a single issue voter, it wouldn't be for gender woo, it wouldn't even be abortion rights, it would be voting for the one person who has the strictest gun policy.

Despite our personal losses of absolutely innocent kids - both strong, mentally healthy boys, good kids who should have grown up to have their own children, make art, play their sports, create music and live life, I hope I wouldn't be a single issue voter. I want to believe I look at all of the issues and make a choice based on who is best overall. But, maybe I'm as imperfect as a voter who has a kid caught by the gender craze. Maybe it's easy for me to choose the party who wants to save abortion and control guns. I don't blame or castigate a trans widow or parent of a gender confused child if they voted Trump, but don't make like your most important issue is bigger than mine or anyone else's.

Last I heard, Harris isn't a convicted rapist. Nor has she been impeached. She also doesn't call women losers, ugly, crazy, stupid, low IQ, dumb, fat, useless etc. in the public arena.

Perhaps that's a few of the reasons.

but don't make like your most important issue is bigger than mine or anyone else's.

But that’s what these threads do, isn’t it? Make the “greater good” more important than a person’s issue. You said it yourself earlier, a voter should consider how their vote impacts others on other issues. So how is that not making other people’s issues bigger than that voter’s?

So how is that not making other people’s issues bigger than that voter’s?

I don't understand what you're getting at?

She supports sterilising children. She supports males in women’s prisons. She supports mastectomies for teenage girls. To you (and others) these aren’t as bad as Trump. But to a parent whose child has had these things done?

I just said that I don't castigate parents of kids destroyed by gender.

It's KJK who's being rightly criticized.