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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 08:31

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 08:25

Please stop implying regular posters who disagree with KJK are TRAs. It's not true and it's offensive.

Please improve your reading comprehension. Please re-read the 6th and 7th paragraph of the post you quoted and apologise.

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 08:34

Shroedinger. Simultaneously "a big player" and "just one person of billions".

No. This is how it is viewed in the minds of TRAs. They see her for bigger than she actually is.

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 08:34

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 08:31

Please improve your reading comprehension. Please re-read the 6th and 7th paragraph of the post you quoted and apologise.

certain posters endlessly flogging the “you’re all right wing by association” dead horse is a TRA tactic, to try and develop guilt by association and to seek to undermine any opposition to gender ideology.

Please clarify what this meant in that case.

I don't apologise on demand. I apologise if I got something wrong but that para seems incontrovertible in applying to me and some other "regular posters".

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 08:39

Please clarify what this meant in that case.

It’s quite simple. There are posters who say that by agreeing with KJK about some things means you agree with her about everything. This isn’t true is it?

And it also isn’t true that I said regular posters who disagree with KJK are TRAs because I went out of my way to indicate that many regular posters disagree with her on things and are not TRAs, including me. So you have blatantly misrepresented what I have said through failure to read or lack of comprehension of my post. If you don't want to apologise, I don’t really care.

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 08:41

On the other hand Cassie, if you think that you are one of the posters who tries to guilt people by association, then that statement applies to you. But you don’t do that, so that doesn’t apply to you, does it? Why would you think that applies to you?

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 09:08

You are sidestepping the fact you said "certain posters endlessly flogging the “you’re all right wing by association” dead horse is a TRA tactic"

Continuing this is a pathway to one or both of us getting reported/deleted and I don't think its worth it so I'm not engaging with your latest posts.

oldwhyno · 13/09/2024 09:16

Livinginaclock · 11/09/2024 17:27

She's allowed her opinion.
The only person I agree with on everything is me.
KJK gives ordinary women a voice, and I think she's great for it.
Would I vote for Trump? No.
Would I vote for Kamala? No.

I don't even agree with everything I say sometimes!

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 09:21

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 09:08

You are sidestepping the fact you said "certain posters endlessly flogging the “you’re all right wing by association” dead horse is a TRA tactic"

Continuing this is a pathway to one or both of us getting reported/deleted and I don't think its worth it so I'm not engaging with your latest posts.

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You are sidestepping the fact you said "certain posters endlessly flogging the “you’re all right wing by association” dead horse is a TRA tactic"

I am not sidestepping it. I posted about itConfused. I think we can all agree there are people who like to come on this forum and try this tactic. It’s pretty regular, it’s a running joke about the mythical money we are supposed to be getting because of it.

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 09:24

Dumbo12 · 13/09/2024 00:05

Two tier policing appears to mean very different things to different groups of people. To some it is bias in favour of Muslim men, to some it is bias against women, to some it bias against Jewish people, to some it is bias against a particular class. I fail to see that some of these disparate groups attending a rally organised by "Tommy Robinson" achieve any aim other than providing their organiser with yet more publicity.

I am almost certain that 2 tier police originated from police being able to react differently depending on the nature of the thing they were reacting too. although I can't find info about that now, it sounds like a good thing. so for example they would react differently to a rowdy drunk aggressive demonstration/march compared to a peaceful demonstration/march. on that basis, we should all welcome 2 tier policing

there are statistics though to show that Black peoplefor example get policed differently to white people. I don't think there is any data which suggests that right wing people get policed more harshly that left wing people which is what TR and the JKJ lot seem to be suggesting

MalagaNights · 13/09/2024 09:33

Lots of women who oppose gender ideology are Trump supporters.

Megan Kelly, Riley Gaines to name a couple who spring to mind.

Obviously mostly American women as it's not up to British women to comment on American politics, but KJK is over there giving her opinion which she's free to do.

The idea that it's only left wing women leading on this fight is a weirdly British notion. Weird because it's not even true in Britain. Really it's a weird MN FWR notion. Or a small group of MN posters.

These threads should be titled: Some Women are Right Wing Shocker. And YOU agree with them sometimes!!! What are you going to do??

I think left wing feminists are meant to hand wring, denounce, and disassociate for a penance for agreeing with or even liking right wing women.

It's heartening that so many refuse to comply.

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 09:38

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 09:21

You are sidestepping the fact you said "certain posters endlessly flogging the “you’re all right wing by association” dead horse is a TRA tactic"

I am not sidestepping it. I posted about itConfused. I think we can all agree there are people who like to come on this forum and try this tactic. It’s pretty regular, it’s a running joke about the mythical money we are supposed to be getting because of it.

Yes, I've seen the joke. I've also repeatedly been on the end of accusations about being bad faith/disingenuous/ TRA/ Labour shill / CCHQ/ a man/ a troll/ a Brighton socfem/ a sock puppet by those who make the joke.

There are some TRAs/community disruptors but it appears to me to be less than there used to be. More often that accusation is being made to posters who come across to me as feminists with a different opinion.

I noticed when the boards started getting a lot of trans threads we got far fewer MRA visitors - I always assumed it was because they were content the heat was off male behaviour writ large (NAMALT) and on a subsection of males that they dislike any way (TW).

Now I think the TRAs visit less, they have no need to because GC feminism is being destroyed by infighting so they can just watch and laugh.

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 09:43

MalagaNights · 13/09/2024 09:33

Lots of women who oppose gender ideology are Trump supporters.

Megan Kelly, Riley Gaines to name a couple who spring to mind.

Obviously mostly American women as it's not up to British women to comment on American politics, but KJK is over there giving her opinion which she's free to do.

The idea that it's only left wing women leading on this fight is a weirdly British notion. Weird because it's not even true in Britain. Really it's a weird MN FWR notion. Or a small group of MN posters.

These threads should be titled: Some Women are Right Wing Shocker. And YOU agree with them sometimes!!! What are you going to do??

I think left wing feminists are meant to hand wring, denounce, and disassociate for a penance for agreeing with or even liking right wing women.

It's heartening that so many refuse to comply.

This thread is specifically about KJK saying "Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

It's not left/right. It's about supporting a sex offending, misogynist with traditional patriarchal views as POTUS.

For some reason posters seem to want to get back onto the familiar ground of left/right rather than engaging with what she actually said (and some of the follow up tweets which I screenshotted upthread).

Interesting to observe, if predictable.

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 09:47

I’m not being funny but where is the ‘cult like following’ of ‘posters uncritically support KJK’?

I must be reading a completely different thread.

Why are some posters on here giving her so much power?

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 09:56

‘GC Feminism is being destroyed by infighting’

Who is starting the fighting on these threads and why?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion , you can’t make people publicly denounce KJK.

What are you trying to achieve if you think in fighting is destroying GC feminism then surely you need to acknowledge that your insistence that we all denounce everything KJK says is part of the problem ? 🤫

EasternStandard · 13/09/2024 09:58

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 09:56

‘GC Feminism is being destroyed by infighting’

Who is starting the fighting on these threads and why?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion , you can’t make people publicly denounce KJK.

What are you trying to achieve if you think in fighting is destroying GC feminism then surely you need to acknowledge that your insistence that we all denounce everything KJK says is part of the problem ? 🤫

‘GC Feminism is being destroyed by infighting’

All these threads are infighting, started due to some comment on X

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 09:58

CassieMaddox · 13/09/2024 09:38

Yes, I've seen the joke. I've also repeatedly been on the end of accusations about being bad faith/disingenuous/ TRA/ Labour shill / CCHQ/ a man/ a troll/ a Brighton socfem/ a sock puppet by those who make the joke.

There are some TRAs/community disruptors but it appears to me to be less than there used to be. More often that accusation is being made to posters who come across to me as feminists with a different opinion.

I noticed when the boards started getting a lot of trans threads we got far fewer MRA visitors - I always assumed it was because they were content the heat was off male behaviour writ large (NAMALT) and on a subsection of males that they dislike any way (TW).

Now I think the TRAs visit less, they have no need to because GC feminism is being destroyed by infighting so they can just watch and laugh.

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Now I think the TRAs visit less, they have no need to because GC feminism is being destroyed by infighting so they can just watch and laugh.

So it makes it all the more ridiculous that people engage with thread after thread after thread of shit stirring about the posts of one particular woman, doesn’t it?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/09/2024 10:00

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 09:47

I’m not being funny but where is the ‘cult like following’ of ‘posters uncritically support KJK’?

I must be reading a completely different thread.

Why are some posters on here giving her so much power?

Same. Are they on this thread?

I'm following with bemusement.

MessinaBloom · 13/09/2024 10:03

@NotBadConsidering

Does it though? For thread after endless thread? Started by an OP who hasn’t returned? Because she’s (shock!) tweeted something 😮? Why? What original thought does this bring? Nothing so far and we are now on page 11.

Despite your efforts to stop the discussion, yes, I do believe it worth talking about why the leader of the Party of Women would endorse Donald Trump.

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 10:06

MessinaBloom · 13/09/2024 10:03

@NotBadConsidering

Does it though? For thread after endless thread? Started by an OP who hasn’t returned? Because she’s (shock!) tweeted something 😮? Why? What original thought does this bring? Nothing so far and we are now on page 11.

Despite your efforts to stop the discussion, yes, I do believe it worth talking about why the leader of the Party of Women would endorse Donald Trump.

I haven’t tried to stop discussion. I have asked for something new to add to the discussion. Is there anything that has been discussed so far that hasn’t been discussed a million times over about KJK? Do you have anything new to add yet?

Wenzles · 13/09/2024 10:11

I noticed when the boards started getting a lot of trans threads we got far fewer MRA visitors - I always assumed it was because they were content the heat was off male behaviour writ large (NAMALT) and on a subsection of males that they dislike any way (TW).

Isn't it a case that some women let the MRAs join us, celebrated them even?

MessinaBloom · 13/09/2024 10:16

@NotBadConsidering

I haven’t tried to stop discussion. I have asked for something new to add to the discussion. Is there anything that has been discussed so far that hasn’t been discussed a million times over about KJK? Do you have anything new to add yet?

Pardon me. Is that in the board rules? I did copy some new tweets from KJK earlier - do they count? 🙄

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 10:24

No it’s not the board rules. I asked if anyone has anything new to add. Feel free to repeat the same old, same old, repeated arguments from thread after thread. Just don’t misrepresent my posts saying I am trying to stop discussion. I didn’t do that, did I?

cantreallyno · 13/09/2024 10:26

lifeturnsonadime · 13/09/2024 09:47

I’m not being funny but where is the ‘cult like following’ of ‘posters uncritically support KJK’?

I must be reading a completely different thread.

Why are some posters on here giving her so much power?

not on this thread, no. in real life and it is evident on some Twitter threads

NotBadConsidering · 13/09/2024 10:27

New tweets🙄. Why don’t we just have a live tweet thread about her so we can scrutinise every single one?

Dumbo12 · 13/09/2024 10:34

Surely if people feel that a thread about kjk, which is not all about how wonderful she is, is boring and a tra type of approach, full of sock puppets, so that they're is only one poster talking to themselves, then surely they should ignore the post and let the thread slide down the board from disengagement.

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