Founder of Surrey Pride charged with child sex abuse

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Gosh. I remember this person from a few years ago when Starbucks was doing its Mermaid biscuits campaign. A local councillor (?) raised her concerns about safeguarding at Mermaids and he had a real go at her.

BBC News - Surrey Pride founder faces child sex abuse charges
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k4g6ek3xvo

From insight from this thread as to how much women's voices and safeguarding concerns may have official sanction to be disregarded and silenced.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5049798-police-and-crime-commissioner-elections-important

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Relevant to PCCs and the drive to end female support for domestic violence: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5049427-tra-womens-orgs-and-police-end-all-female-only-abuse-support?

The role of Police Women’s Independent Advisory Groups in this seems important.I Googled for Police Women’s Independent Advisory Group in my county…
…I suggested this to a friend who also Googled. And has reported back with this tweet and news (she's in Essex). So, if I was wondering how the drive to remove single sex services had happened, I'm now sadder and wiser as to the explanation in some areas.

‘I believe the College of Police is inherently corrupted by gender ideology'

'Recently, a man named Clare, Head of the Independent Advisory Group to Essex Police, said women with gender critical views should be treated as terrorists’

- Sarah Phillimore, Co-founder WeAreFairCop

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1769464221874434067

Here’s Hazel, fro her current website :

‘In the current climate, with a dramatic increase in hate crimes towards the LGBTQ community reported in the UK and other countries, it is so important to show our visibility locally, and especially to actively support our Trans family”

She had a successful career singing torch songs in Gay clubs in the last century, much praise for not deserting the cause during the AIDS crisis. It’s such a shame when people can’t accept that a battle is pretty much won and have to go on to find new and less worthy causes.

( I know there are certain faith exceptions).

Sleazy men seem to be welcomed as experts everywhere when they wear a rainbow lanyard.

This statement from their annual accounts seems relevant,

As well as the LGBTQ+ community we regularly liaise with local authorities and public services. From local and specialist officers of Surrey Police to services less publicised by the local authority such as Surrey's Fostering and Adoption services or NHS sexual and mental health practices.

There was also a comment on Surrey Prides Facebook post that Stephen Ireland had been going into schools to spread the word.

There used to be a time when people went to pride in jeans and t-shirts and just generally what you would wear to the supermarket. Because the purpose of pride was to protest about unfair treatment and inequality in things like getting a job or getting a mortgage. Or going to the shops without getting beaten up.

Now it's all about dressing up and being allowed to dress up in the work place and be in everyone's face about your identity.

The problem is that's encouraged and attracted people with paraphernalias to do so publicly. Some completely unconnected with being gay. It's just a public display of sexual behaviour which otherwise wouldn't be in public.

That's going to attract certain types of people unfortunately, who have higher rates of sexual offending. Not because of the gay element but because of the sexualised element.

This has actually alienated a lot of gay people who just want to be normal and be seen as normal and not associated with overtime public displays of sexual behaviour. So we've come full circle in a sense, that gay people wanted to be seen as normal and just be accepted like everyone else but now the emphasis on promoting how different they are and how explicitly sexualised they are in public.

To say that there's a different between gay pride being just about being gay and nothing more and this explicit sexual display is somewhat taboo. Which illustrates a lot of the problem here. The overton window has shifted to a position where you can't comment on this because it's labelled as prudish and homophobic because the two have been deliberately inextricably linked.

There is the Trojan Horse.

Safeguarding is all about spotting the Trojan Horses who try to be on your side but have their own nefarious agenda which is totally at odds with the benefit of the main group they pretend to serve the interests of.

We know that those who seek to exploit others, establish themselves in positions of trust and try to make themselves untouchable. If we look at their reputation rather than focusing on issues that arise, we aren't paying attention to this dynamic.

This is where you should always be in touch with centring vulnerable people and not your own mission. You should think about how you are blind to the interests of others.

The now deleted statement is interesting for that reason. It's still blind to the victims.

But yes, this is why Pride is now problematic, because it's so far removed from 'normal gay' people and the perception has shifted to the idea of someone gay being extrovert, extravagant and a bit abnormal too and this has also become a cover for others with less innocent intentions.

Saying this isn't homophobic. I think there should be visibility and awareness of 'boring' or 'vanilla' gay people who don't want to be co-opted into public sexual displays and perhaps even find it offensive themselves.

But yeah, it shows who is driving the narrative when this point isn't even on the radar in terms of possibilities - the 'prudish' gay person isn't a concept that computes.

How very unsurprising that paedophiles are hiding under the queer umbrella. It's almost as if feminists hadn't constantly warned this would happen.

There's been a deleting spree among a number of charities (particularly mental health) that had talks from Ireland recently or for whom he helped to set up various support groups.

It's understandable but I hope they've got some trustee and other meetings to consider their own investigations and concerns. Remedial action must go beyond a page deletion when following items from Google.

From Helen Joyce in Quillette:
quillette.com/2018/12/04/the-new-patriarchy-how-trans-radicalism-hurts-women-children-and-trans-people-themselves/

Extract:
"In 1979, Eileen Fairweather was working at Spare Rib, a radical-feminist magazine. She was young and new to journalism, but assigned to read Paedophilia: The Radical Case, in which Tom O’Carroll, later imprisoned for child-abuse, argued for lowering the age of consent to four. She recalls “anguished, earnest” discussions with feminist friends about what they should write about it. “I did draft something, arguing that the existing age of consent was not ‘patriarchal’, but protected children,” she says. “But I never even dared show it to anyone.” No-one back then realized the extent and brutality of child-abuse. And the pedophile movement had so thoroughly hijacked the gay movement that, if you said you were against “child sexual liberation”—as, outrageously, they put it—you were branded “anti-gay.” She says she sees “the same intimidation and paralysis of intelligence” with the transgender debate, with people terrified to express legitimate concerns about infiltration and safeguarding."

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3804521-Helen-Joyce-taking-a-sabbatical-to-write-a-book-on-gender-ideology

Also relevant:
https://womenspeakscotland.com/2021/06/23/the-trans-umbrella-is-older-than-you-think/

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4368331-Pride-in-Surrey-takes-on-PCC

Pride in Surrey on the Surrey PCC Lisa Townsend.

Here is Pride in Surrey attacking both Lisa Townsend and the LGB Alliance, calling them a 'hate group'.

https://whatthetrans.com/pride-in-surrey-slam-the-lgb-alliance-and-anti-trans-police-crime-commisioner/

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Ah, I may have saved a screenshot somewhere and/or archived it. Will check in a.bit.

https://archive.ph/fyHPa

Thank you. (Can't quote a quote on app)

Stephen Ireland was patron of Educate and Celebrate. And founder of 'International Fetish Day'.

This, if you're wondering, is my shocked face.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/educate-and-celebrate-groom-and-confuse

I know some people have criticised Graham Linehan for calling people 'groomers'.

Stephen Ireland was patron of Educate and Celebrate. And founder of 'International Fetish Day'.

FFS!

Apologies for that thumbnail, btw, I didn't realise the link would auto add it. I'll ask MN to obscure.

Sadly, this indicates how little due diligence charities with substantial safeguarding duties perform before inviting speakers or activists to be involved with them.

Or, like the kindergarten parents, just how desperate people are to appear progressive that they lose all sense of appropriate boundaries.

Disturbing read:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html

What did this say- it has been deleted

And when they ask why so many have lost all faith in the Police I shall direct them to this.

Archived: https://archive.ph/fyHPa

Is that Hazell "Searchin' for Love" Dean, pop star of the 80s, or may be it's someone with a similar name? Apologies if mixed up different people.

Yes, that Hazell Dean.

Ah, thanks for the feedback. What a mess :(

Children of Transitioners wrote about the police safeguarding issues some time ago. Yet victims of abuse by these men are supposed to trust them. If any of you have any contact with the new Labour Home Secretary, please send this article their way..

https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2022/09/03/the-police-have-been-captured/

Many of you will remember Challenor, especially lib dems and Green party members of a few years ago.
childrenoftransitioners.org/2021/09/25/not-shutting-up/

😂apologies for derail, your comment tickled me. (We used to nickname one of our auditors Columbo)

Hazell Dean posts an awful lot about 'trans' and Pride and gender issues. She is a very enthusiastic 'ally', and she seems to not have the tiniest jot of empathy for the victims of predators.

She made a Facebook post about Andrew Miller/Amy George, in May 2023, copied and pasted:

'Sharing this from my co-pilot: Here is a long read, that most won’t bother with, but as allies it’s something we must say.

This is a headline the transgender community does not need right now.

“Man abducted and sexually assaulted schoolgirl while dressed as woman”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65610429

Please get this into perspective before the hysteria starts.

“A person has admitted abducting a primary school girl while dressed as a woman before sexually assaulting her at his home in the Scottish Borders.
Andrew Miller, who is also known as Amy George, offered to give the girl a lift home in February of this year.

The 53-year-old instead drove her to his own house, took her into a bedroom and refused to let her leave. He then subjected her to a series of sexual assaults over the course of the next 27 hours.”

It is reported that Miller is in the process of transitioning.

This is a headline the transgender community do not need right now.

Being transgender does not automatically make you a criminal.
Some transgender people are criminals.

• The majorority are not.

“Miller is being held in a male prison wing while awaiting sentence in line with new guidelines for trans prisoners who commit sexual offences that were introduced following an outcry over the Isla Bryson case.
Bryson was initially placed in a female prison after being convicted of raping two women while she was known as a man called Adam Graham.”

Please consider the fact that both of these cases have been in Scotland, the country that dared to defy the UK government in its support of Transgender people with the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill 2023.

https://www.gov.uk/.../statement-gender-recognition...

As the hysteria builds please take a moment to consider how many sex crimes against children are committed annually.

Take time to think about who the perpetrators are.

How many thousands of sex crimes against children (and women) are committed by *cisgender people, and how many of those crimes are committed by cisgender men, compared to sex crimes committed by Trans women.

*A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. A person whose sex was assigned male at birth and identifies as a boy or a man, or someone whose sex was assigned female at birth and identifies as a girl or a woman.

The fact is this - Children are being abused right now, every day and every night, mostly in their own homes and by people they know and trust.

The majority of the perpetrators of these silent crimes go unnoticed and unpunished. Their crimes are never reported.
They are never brought to court.

These criminals are dads, uncles, grandads, brothers, cousins, family friends, neighbours. They could be mothers, sisters, aunts.
Statistically they are very unlikely to be Transgender.

The vast majority of child sex offenders in England and Wales are male, with cisgender men representing 98% of all defendants.

The Centre of Expertise on Child Sexual Abuse stated that "In the records of defendants prosecuted for child sexual abuse offences" among those in which ethnic background was recorded "the vast majority were white (89%); 6% were Asian, 3% were Black, 1% were from mixed ethnic backgrounds and 1% were from "other" ethnic backgrounds

Please get this into perspective. The majority of sex offenders who are caught and find themselves in court are CISGENDER WHITE MEN.

Being a cisgender white man does not automatically make you a criminal.
Some men are criminals.

• The majority are not.

Being a cisgender woman does not automatically make you a criminal.
Some women are criminals.

• The majority are not.

Being transgender does not automatically make you a criminal.
Some transgender people are criminals.

• The majority are not.

COMMITTING A CRIME MAKES YOU A CRIMINAL.

Being transgender is not (currently) a crime.

Andrew Miller, also known as Amy George, IS A CRIMINAL. They are not representative of the whole Transgender community.

Please educate yourself - The hysteria has started.

https://www.csacentre.org.uk/.../trends-in-official-data/'

That is a long ass post. And there is not even one word of consideration or compassion for the victim.

660 words. A small essay on Amy George/Andrew Miller.

Not one word of sympathy. Not one thought. Not one.

I'm actually speechless.

How many speeches is Hazell Dean going to write defending men before she gives any consideration to the victims of abusers?

Also note how she describes public reaction to the absolutely horrific and awful crimes of George/Miller as 'hysteria'.

And note how she mensions Isla Bryson, but again, no thought to his victims.

And describes the news as 'a headline the transgender community does not need right now'.

What about the victims, Hazell?