Pride in Surrey takes on PCC

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www.prideinsurrey.org/pccag-news

“From the offset, Ms Townsend asserted that we would not change her mind and she fully believed that "male
bodied people" are not women and that the use of women's refuges should be for people who were born women.
Ms Townsend went on to assert that she "believes in sex, not gender". “

We are with you Lisa- don’t be bullied!

Of interest, here's Lisa Townsend's own account of what led up to this:

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1445286919919783939

The relevant part is from 7 minutes in.

Ridiculous.

I will write again support of Lisa Townsend.

I hope others do too. These police officers are not acting in my name, in their PCC's name, or in most of their residents' names.

What's the Surrey Chief Constable's position, anyone know?

Ms Townsend asserted that we would not change her mind and she fully believed that "male bodied people" are not women and that the use of women's refuges should be for people who were born women.

Pride in Surrey does not believe that a person holding elected office should be entitled to promote hateful rhetoric, use offensive language or refuse to work with the community about which she holds such controversial views.

I am so grateful to Lisa Townsend for her calm, strong refusal to bend to the dictates of this nonsense.

Lol Lisa said no

They can’t belive a woman said no to them and to their drama

Controversial views? Is it, though?

I saw Lisa has been doing something today about Canal Watch - there's a massive problem with men indecently exposing themselves to women and girls on a canal in Surrey. You know, actual violence.

If they are honestly trying to say 'the use of women's refuges should be for people who were born women' is a 'controversial' view, then I think Pride in Surrey needs to get out of their bubble and talk to people.

I love the bit about 'finding the budget for refuges for trans people'
So, that's what women did, right? we needed refuges and so we went to the police and said, 'right, you're going to find the budget for us, yes?'

What does it mean "educate those who think the equalities act doesn't apply to them"? Single sex exemption is lawful under the equalities act.

The Surrey police officers involved and Surrey Pride know damn well how to apply for 3rd space funding but they can't be arsed, and they've blocked most if not all of the female experts who would give them copious free advice and references.

@StillWeRise

I love the bit about 'finding the budget for refuges for trans people' So, that's what women did, right? we needed refuges and so we went to the police and said, 'right, you're going to find the budget for us, yes?'

Haha well spotted, yes I'm sure Stonewall can stretch to sorting that out.

Why the hell do these people think they are?

*Who

@nauticant

Of interest, here's Lisa Townsend's own account of what led up to this:

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1445286919919783939

The relevant part is from 7 minutes in.

I watched this yesterday and thought Lisa was brilliant. She had to fight her superiors several times, because they kept telling her that 'nobody is worried about this', and 'it's not a big issue' .

From what I can see if the published stuff on the Chief Constable Gavin Stephenson, there's nothing suggesting he's been captured by the woo.

And Lisa Townsend is of course his boss, not the other way round.

Let us celebrate when we achieve our aim of removing those involved in hate speech from positions of power.

FFS the last line of that is so sinister. They are really showing their true colours here. 'Hate speech' of course being anyone who doesn't agree with them.

What the hell happened to Pride?

@ArabellaScott

Ms Townsend asserted that we would not change her mind and she fully believed that "male bodied people" are not women and that the use of women's refuges should be for people who were born women.

Pride in Surrey does not believe that a person holding elected office should be entitled to promote hateful rhetoric, use offensive language or refuse to work with the community about which she holds such controversial views.

It's quite something that a vocal minority have managed to convince so many people that recognising people with male bodies are in fact male is some kind of hate speech.

It's proper through the looking glass stuff.

Och these wee grifters just need to be told to do one

By the adults

I mean how is this a controversial view? It's just not. It's reality.

@SpindleWhirl

From what I can see if the published stuff on the Chief Constable Gavin Stephenson, there's nothing suggesting he's been captured by the woo.

And Lisa Townsend is of course his boss, not the other way round.

Apologies, I didn't realise the hierarchy. When I watched it I assumed they were her bosses.

“From the offset, Ms Townsend asserted that we would not change her mind and she fully believed that "male bodied people" are not women and that the use of women's refuges should be for people who were born women.*
Ms Townsend went on to assert that she "believes in sex, not gender“

They don't realise how utterly pathetic and sinister they come across to anyone not off their tits on Kool Aid, do they?

''This woman won't stop acknowledging reality, so we're going to get her dealt with.''

And these people are supposed to be actual grown ups. God fucking help us

I voted for Lisa just before I moved up north from Surrey. I had emailed her and the other PCC candidates about my concerns around women’s prisons, refuges, etc.

She said she had been inundated with women contacting her about these issues and she felt it was an incredibly important issue because Surrey women had told her it was important to them.

One candidate never replied at all and the other said he was on the fence about crimes committed by transwomen being recorded as being committed by women.

So, for the first time in my life, I voted for the Conservative candidate. I really hope Lisa can hold her nerve.

@littlbrowndog

Och these wee grifters just need to be told to do one

By the adults

Exactly. As Helen Joyce keeps saying, the adults in charge need to do the jobs they are paid for, which sometimes includes firmly saying no to preposterous and fantastical demands.

It's been around for a while now but this interpretation of the redesigned "inclusive" Pride flag is amusing and spot on:

twitter.com/LouiseWluddite/status/1400866710983426049