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Founder of Surrey Pride charged with child sex abuse

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CriticalCondition · 15/08/2024 20:41

Gosh. I remember this person from a few years ago when Starbucks was doing its Mermaid biscuits campaign. A local councillor (?) raised her concerns about safeguarding at Mermaids and he had a real go at her.

BBC News - Surrey Pride founder faces child sex abuse charges
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k4g6ek3xvo

Staines Magistrates' Court.

Surrey Pride founder and volunteer facing child sex abuse charges

Stephen Ireland and David Sutton, both from Addlestone, were arrested on Wednesday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k4g6ek3xvo

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 16:36

Those details are absolutely shocking - there needs to be an enquiry into his and all the other men from that Pride group and their access to schools and the children in them.

As well as demanding explanations from the leadership in the local council, the police and school leaders about their lack of judgement and due diligence in giving predators direct access to children.

Melroses · 13/03/2025 16:40

That is quite a thread. I didn't think I was shockable any more 😬

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 17:24

Melroses · 13/03/2025 16:40

That is quite a thread. I didn't think I was shockable any more 😬

Isn't it awful. There was a time when this would have been all over the media but it's become so prevalent (see countless court cases, Mermaids, the Scottish LGBTYS, Stonewall (Challenor) etc that along with the allegations of bigotry for pointing all this out, nothing seems to get challenged and predators just continue.

Melroses · 13/03/2025 17:28

Sometimes it seems like the world has given up 😔

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/03/2025 17:29

God this is horrific. Sacred caste approach in action

why the fuck do people who really really should & in fact do know better allow their brains to fall out around safeguarding when someone waves a progressive pride flag at them??

CriticalCondition · 13/03/2025 17:38

That is a horrifying read.

I hope these convictions and the background is fully reported by the national media. But given the BBC's record I won't hold my breath.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 17:39

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/03/2025 17:29

God this is horrific. Sacred caste approach in action

why the fuck do people who really really should & in fact do know better allow their brains to fall out around safeguarding when someone waves a progressive pride flag at them??

Worth taking a look at this thread about the trans capture of the Met to see how the police are "persuaded " to decriminalise sex offences like voyeurism and indecent exposure along with safeguarding children in favour of pandering to the demands of men who claim to be women:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5292186-m-newman-v-met-police-employment-tribunal

There's a reason these men are able to operate in plain sight despite society now knowing how paedophiles and predators work. Apparently Surrey police accompanied Ireland into a school (presumably to talk to children) in the days preceding his arrest!

M Newman V Met Police Employment Tribunal | Mumsnet

Just wondering if anyone is following this on TT. It’s quite bizarre. The first witness attended the Trans Training session which I gather is where th...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5292186-m-newman-v-met-police-employment-tribunal

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AnSolas · 13/03/2025 17:42

Flow tests complete
On our way to #ReclaimPride March in London!

Pride in Surrey and 2 others
11:45 AM · Jul 24, 2021

I am crap at photo IDs but clicked through into their x link.
I am assuming the guy in the blackT and poster is not SI?

[(EDIT) Sorry The image vanished 🤷‍♀️ ]

Soontobe60 · 13/03/2025 17:53

The question I want to ask is, how many other Pride groups are fronted by people just like this? Because I’d bet my life on there being more than just this set of monsters.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 13/03/2025 17:56

As a general comment- archive version of map of Scouts Leaders convicted for sexual Offences against children.

archive.is/XrJ6g

Chersfrozenface · 13/03/2025 18:00

Soontobe60 · 13/03/2025 17:53

The question I want to ask is, how many other Pride groups are fronted by people just like this? Because I’d bet my life on there being more than just this set of monsters.

One in Mid Wales. From the local paper/website, the Powys County Times.

"THE man behind the cancelled Welshpool Pride event will be sentenced later this month after admitting a charge of attempting to engage in sexual communication with a child.

Andrew James Way, 61, had been behind plans to host the town’s first-ever LGBTQ event, which was set to go ahead in July, but the festival was cancelled just two weeks before it was due to start. Way was arrested on July 3."

"Appearing at Welshpool Magistrates’ Court via videolink on Tuesday, August 8, Way admitted a further four charges – relating to breaching a sexual harm prevention order made by Bristol Magistrates’ Court in November 2007."

More here https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/23709827.welshpool-powys-pride-organiser-admits-child-sex-offences/

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 13/03/2025 18:02

These cases just keep on coming out of the woodwork, don't they! I feel sick.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 18:04

Apologies for the pink news link but in Wiltshire:

www.thepinknews.com/2020/05/28/swindon-wiltshire-pride-paedophile-child-sex-abuse-lee-clarke-charity-commission-jo-sharpe/

Melroses · 13/03/2025 18:08

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 18:04

Somebody archived it, if you don't want to give them clicks.
https://archive.ph/uVxQM

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 18:14

Children are a major target for Surrey Pride - I see that the theme park Thorpe Park & Camberley Library have been eagerly associating with them - with cuddly animals to attract children ( see the Women of Surrey twitter thread upthread).

AnSolas · 13/03/2025 18:19

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/03/2025 18:14

Children are a major target for Surrey Pride - I see that the theme park Thorpe Park & Camberley Library have been eagerly associating with them - with cuddly animals to attract children ( see the Women of Surrey twitter thread upthread).

Access, grooming is always about getting a opening to meet and be seen as safe.
Get the adults to see a friend and the risk to the child is so much harder to spot.

duc748 · 13/03/2025 18:41

If Keir Starmer is bothered about NGOs obstructing effective government, he could start by having a close look at all Pride groups for a start. I see no reason at all why these kind of groupings should get any State subsidy or influence on policy.

Just how lazy, stupid or corrupt must we be to have permitted these perverts to step into positions of authority?

FarewellMsSorrow · 13/03/2025 19:46

Have Surrey Police commented yet? The same Surrey Police that went with Ireland to visit a secondary school the week before they charged him with raping a child?

SinnerBoy · 13/03/2025 19:48

They've certainly tapped into the "Nobody wants to be seen as a homophobe / anti Semite / general bigot" philosophy very well, haven't they? So many people have been terrified of being labelled and losing their livelihoods, cf the grooming gangs in Rochdale.

People turned their bullshit detectors off.

DuesToTheDirt · 13/03/2025 20:20

CriticalCondition · 13/03/2025 17:40

BBC News - Pride group founder convicted of raping boy, 12
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28yj34zgpo

Not the main point obviously, but why is a 12 year old using Grindr? A quick google tells me you are supposed to be 18+. Is it common for 12 year olds to be on there?

Melroses · 13/03/2025 20:38

https://x.com/Jonnywsbell/status/1900284173635735644
Here is Stephen Ireland setting up a group to oust the Surrey PCC, Lisa Townsend.

https://x.com/Jonnywsbell/status/1900284173635735644

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