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There's no way this bloke thinks he's female;he knows he's a bloke,we know he's a bloke,everyone knows he's a bloke.

She's been coached for this - maybe 'groomed' would be another word for it, in the original sense of picking out a promising candidate and giving them support to achieve their full potential. So, Arab/Muslim woman supported to do boxing? Seems unlikely. Arab man with possibility of edging into women's category with advantage over opponents supported to do boxing? This scenario makes sense to me.

He was raised as a girl and has a close pack around him telling him he's a woman.

People you know, or promoted American pages that are completely captured.

Cause I've seen a lot of column B, and hardly any column A (I think I've seen one friend comment on it being racist to say khakis js a man, vs a lot of GC friends who I agree with)

Yeah,they know he's a bloke too.

One of my relatives was fully sucked into one of those 'get rich quick' money making cults some years ago. I went to one of their conferences just to see what it was like.

Thousands in the audience and the lead cult guy on the stage literally said 'Let's see how suggestible you are. Everybody stand up'.

And everyone stood up. It was quite a thing to witness.

We have absolutely no idea how he was raised.

However he will have gone through male puberty. He failed his first eligibility test in 2022. The standards of behaviour expected of him are a million miles away from Muslim women from rural, traditional backgrounds.

It is insulting all of our intelligence to suggest that Khelif doesn't know what sex he is.

you could argue wearing a hijab is a political statement.

Crikey. That's the first time I've seen those photos! How clear can it be.

Off to bleach my eyes now...

Banning Russia is a political statement. Making sweeping gestures about equity are political statements.

Letting a man win a women’s gold medal is a political statement.

I think it just goes to show that ppl will believe what they’re told

they’re told khalief is a woman so they believe it & I get it, ppl are going to say why would organisations like the IOC and the BBC lie

I might buy it if someone could prove he's never set eyes on a woman in his twenty odd years on this planet,but at the very least I imagine it's come to his attention that he doesn't have much in common with his mother.

Unfortunately images can be manipulated. While I have no doubt Imane is a man, I’m reluctant to trust those images.
Video is a bit different.

Those cowardly cowardly men. I hope they, and all the women in their lives, are thoroughly ashamed. Actively lying to the audience.

The one thing we absolutely do know is that the IOC are absolutely fine with anyone identifying into the role of woman for sporting purposes.

So this time round (as far as we know) it's a DSD which gives the all important F marker. Next time out though, there're a huge number of countries who allow self id on passports and if they get the public to accept this then there're golds up for grabs.

This image however really does illustrate progress. What a wonderful world where a woman from a conservative Muslim country, brought up in a rural area, can box and compete on the world stage- no requirement for modest dress, and able to interact freely with men.

#progress #feminism.

Oliver Brown at the Telegraph (I posted this archive link to his piece earlier in the thread).

archive.ph/UfV9z

I know and I looked really hard at the photos before posting. If only the IOC and Khelife would come clean then all this could stop.

Comments on Wales Online (Facebook) are 100% against atm. It'll change, but that's a positive start

I'm off to have a gander at that.

I think it is a more likely outcome that women boxers will refuse to fight a man. Then Khelif could get his gold medal without any boxing taking place. That would kill the sport quite quickly. Women who have had to fight him should sue the IOC over safeguarding and putting them in a potentially lethal situation having to fight against someone who is so obviously male.

Reminds me of the Ricky Gervais film 'the discovery of lying'.

For many young women in UK I think it is, for those in Iran, not wearing hijab is a political statement, a dangerous one.

So this time round (as far as we know) it's a DSD which gives the all important F marker. Next time out though, there're a huge number of countries who allow self id on passports and if they get the public to accept this then there're golds up for grabs.

It's in California too, where self ID is the law, and any restrictions might fall foul of it.

I am slightly heartened by this point however ...

Despite the IOC's attempts to silence the media, and widespread compliance from the MSM, this has dominated the conversation - and not in a good way.

The press conferences have been dominated by it. Their X posts are taken over by it, regardless of subject.

While many are playing along, significant numbers aren't. It's not a good look. More and more are speaking out - Barry McGuigan and Nicola Adams have been notable additions to the debate.

Seb Coe has (carefully) made his feelings know. I can't imagine the federations for Athletics, Swimming and Cycling are regretting the decisions they took on sex segregation for a second.

The captured are captured, but there are many fence sitters who must be watching this and concluding it's not the road they want to go down. This includes other sports federations. But I'm also thinking of the Labour Party (Starmer has good reason to be paying attention).

So my hope is that this will be a turning point, though a more subtle one than we might have hoped. Perhaps I am naive, but I hope not.

Also big shout out to Reduxx who broke the story in the first place. Non mainstream media are a big part of the resistance and will continue to be. There are also brave figures like the guy in The Telegraph whose name escapes me.