I have never felt a punch like this’ – Carini

[Omlettes]

Words fail I'm so angry, but by god she is brave.
Personally I feel sick and 'triggered' it reminds me of the first time an ex punched me on the thigh, I couldnt get over how much it hurt or the enormous bruise from knee to hip. I know there is a general thread on this but its so important it deserves multiple threads. I hope Carinis decision to stop the fight so very publicly makes a difference.
Meanwhile Khelif crows “I am here for gold,” “I will fight anybody, I will fight them all.”
Not the REMOTEST hint of sportsmanlike conduct.
I vote we write to VIiner en masse and lay some responsibility at her feet.
Actually EVERY editor, The Indy NYT WAPO etc
I am incandescent

Jeez, it’s so utterly tiresome to have to explain it repeatedly. Here’s the simple version:

Men, whether DSD men or trans identifying men, have male advantage over women. They are not eligible for the women’s category on account of them being men. There’s no difference between the two. The women’s category needs to be protected.

HTH.

Yes, but as I understand it, people with DSD still have a definite biological sex, from birth, even if the appearance of their genitalia is confusing. If they are male, they will go through male puberty, and this is when they will gain huge physical advantages over women. The fact that they may have presented as female when they were children (and perhaps continued to do so even after realising they had gone through male puberty) does not mean they should be allowed to compete as women. You compete usimg your body, not using your gender identity or 'passport sex'.

Cross-posted!

No matter how many times one explains they pop up like mushrooms saying the same idiotic thing over and over.
Its not complicated his sex is evident

You think boxing is barbaric and shouldn't be allowed; fair enough, but not remotely relevant to this discussion. Allowing men to punch women is also barbaric, yet you have no objection to that situation? WTF!

Naomi Wolf has just apologised to JKR saying she was right all along😮

I can't find this ( am twitter free) Would you mind posting a link please?

Me neither. Heres a screenshot from a poster here

Then I guess it is unclear whether this individual is a man, because they appear to be eligible for the women’s category, as far as the Olympics is concerned anyway.

PS - putting “jeez, it is so utterly tiresome having to explain etc” before your comment just makes you sound like a douchebag. You don’t have a monopoly on the truth any more than the gender ideologists. HTH!

And there we have the real message coming from many - if you don’t want to be hit by men, make your lives smaller ladies.

I cant seem to add the screenshot, sorry, had no problems before.
Hopefully someone else can link you

Man.

It’s clear he’s a man if you had read any of the multiple threads on this story both here and in AIBU and earlier in this thread.

I really don’t care if I sound like a “douchbag”. I’d rather that than people perpetuate the lie that this man is a woman.

The reason he is eligible is because he has female on his passport. That is the reason the IOC have given. HTH

Caster semanya who is also biologically male has F on his passport too

Its not you that looks like a douchebag I assure you.
"Then I guess it is unclear whether this individual is a man, because they appear to be eligible for the women’s category, as far as the Olympics is concerned anyway. '
Could they be anymore naive so late in the game?

This is what happens when we live in the Upside Down. You’d think that being an actual woman would be the sole reason to be eligible for the women’s category. But it’s not remotely relevant. All that is is a bit of ink in the right format in the right place.

The tide turns...

Ugh, you lot are awful. You don’t know. You don’t know if this person has a penis (I guess that’s what the crinkle in the shorts photo is about? Gross) or what their medical/physical/genetic situation is.

I agree that biological sex is real, but you don’t have a monopoly on what the specific indicators are. You also don’t have a monopoly on the rules for any given sport.

The way you are carrying on is fanatical and hypocritical. I’ll leave you to it. Enjoy your Friday.

Exactly!!! In the UK there is no requirement for a GRC to change the sex in your passport. Just a letter from a medical practitioner (hello Drs Webberly, Runswick & Harrop) and a bill in your ‘female’ name

that’s it

CAIS individuals wouldn't be able to compete against males on a fair basis

Then they simply do not compete.
It does not mean that women should roll over.

the boxer is male. Has a massively unfair advantage. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

ah yes that fanatical devotion to -checks notes- ensuring men aren’t allowed to punch women in the name of sport

That can’t be real😮

You have some nerve just because you are so ill informed

We know he has XY chromosomes. He is male. Aren’t we awful trying to stop men punching women? Why do you want men to be allowed to punch women?