Slaughtering women & girls is *not* terrorism, according to the police

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Well, what is it then, when women & girls are targeted because they are specifically girls & women ?

Just your common or garden slaughter?

I'm so so angry about the way in which the regular murder of girls & women because they are female is not seen as political, or a terrorist action.

That is right. Women are mere possessions and men are owners.

Srebrenica
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

Have a read of this:

https://www.gov.uk/contempt-of-court

Pay particular attention to the bottom paragraph where people are actively being asked to report prejudicial posts to the courts.

I am not a lawyer, but I thought you were wrong in what you were saying, so I did a 5-second Google.

I agree OP. Even when there clearly is ideological motivation.

I'll take my chances, thanks.

Yeah, that's probably the best thing to do

Come on, people. What's more important, you getting to vent on an internet forum, or the girls getting justice?

Contempt of court rules exist for a reason - so that convictions will be safe and will not be overturned. The victims are the important ones here.

In other words you are allowing male ideology to minimise what you want to do.

In giving up in this way you are colluding with the problem with society which is what men say, goes.

If early women's liberationists had taken that defeatist attitude we would never have had Domestic Violence acknowledged as an actual crime, insteand of it just being brushed aside as a bit of a domestic.

And whilst TW claiming they have experienced misogyny and not doubt gets lots of headlines, I can live with that because compared to the many, many more instances of murder of women and girls by men as femicide, fueled by misogyny being reported, is of far greated signifigance.

Those murders are far more important and a priority to be recognised for what they are, than they usual attention seekers claiming female status.

Lets please have the courage of our convictions and stop allowing men to narrow our horizons.

And lets start trying to do something meaningful to change to male concepts of society that allow boys and young men to grow into men who are violent towards women.

No doubt there are mothers of boys on this and other FWR.

We need to talk about how to stop those boys and young men being groomed by violent male culture.

I am not speculating on the motives of any particular crime likely to end up sub judice, but just to point out: you don’t have an absolute right to free speech on a privately-owned message board. You only have the right to post according to the terms of use and within whatever guidelines the owner(s) of the message board consider acceptable.

Except it's not "an obvious pattern" that Muslim men are the ones doing grooming and rape and femicide. Were you asleep when the Savile scandal broke? Savile and his ilk are all white. Most of the incidents on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_primary_schools took place in the US with European-named perps or else in China.

Men of all races commit all kinds of crimes. It's not the case that Muslim men never do this, nor that they do it more than other religio-ethnic groups. That's why Rotherham should have been stopped: no religio-ethnic group should deemed above reproach, just as no religio-ethnic group should be demonised, and no public body should abstain from investigating child abuse because of the religio-ethnicity of the suspects.

And... the suspect in this case is unlikely to be Muslim because his family are from a 90% Christian country with just 2% Muslims.

Murders like this make all our lives more circumscribed. Now every time a parent sends a child to a holiday activity this incident and the worry it could happen to their child will occupy at least some part of the mind. The door was open because it was a very hot day. I guess from now on doors and windows in village halls and church halls will be locked for children's activities, codes given out. Maybe the need to install air-conditioning and security gates or to employ extra staff will make these venues and classes financially unviable. Outdoor activities like guide camps may be deemed even more of a risk. It all has the effect of making the world smaller and more prison-like, but especially for women and girls.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair. I think it's a valid concern that if misogyny was a hate crime right now, that women would be getting charged with it left and right.

Just because we recognise that at the moment the law would be wielded against those it should protect (i.e. women and girls), doesn't mean we are giving up or "colluding".

I think it means we recognise that we need it, but also that we need to get over these sort of hurdles, such as recognising across the board that TWAM for example, to make it properly effective and ensure that it would be used in the correct way.

ETA: I completely agree with the latter majority of your post BTW.

Those girls will never get justice.

Justice for their families, then.

And no, if the trial is declared a mistrial, or the verdict overturned because of comments made before it, the families will not get justice.

Just seen on BBC that he had a history of mental illness and or neuro divergency.

The sooner this thread is taken down the better. And yes I have reported it.

@timenowplease Stop spreading misinformation. We don't yet know what happened.

What misinformation have I spread?

Total deflection in this thread.

Nothing to see here. Move along now.

Thread not going your way? Get it deleted.

You're the one who keeps mentioning Muslims, Arabs, religion etc.

I've not made that connection at all. Stop talking nonsense.

Which part of "dogwhistle" do you fail to understand?

Totally, posters turning themselves inside out to deflect from what is an obvious pattern. Whilst they may have the best of intentions the end result is more women and girls in danger. Exactly what happened with the grooming gangs.

If I'm mistaken, what "obvious pattern" are you referring to here? That all the perps are male?

We all know that on social media, when people say "grooming gangs", they aren't talking about Epstein.

We all know that on social media, when people say "grooming gangs", they aren't talking about Epstein

Or the Church of England or the Catholic Church or white tourists who travel to south east Asia to abuse children.

The connection is that there have been three knife attacks on groups of children in the past 13 months. I've said this already in a PP.

You can leave your dog whistling out of it as well please. Using that phrase and accusing people of islamophobia is getting boring now. You're only making a fool of yourself.

Terrorism suggests there is an ideological or political reason for the killing which some people may support. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Think Nelson Mandela. Murder means it was done out of pure malice

So what do you think the linking factor is for these three attacks that have made the news because of taking place in Europe? That you think other posters are "deflecting" about?

Women being killed does not necessarily make a crime misogynistic, a female hate “crime”, incel crime or anti female terrorism.

I don’t know why that’s so hard to understand.