So fucking sick of it all today

[MrsTerryPratchett]

This week I've dealt with so many fucking shitty pieces of male fuckwittedness I'm angry, miserable, losing sleep. I don't know what I want from you lot of lovely women but I think I just need to scream from a mountaintop.

It's all secondhand, not even me as the victim. But fuck me it's brought up all the absolutely shit I've had to deal with over the years.

No NAMALTing from the usual suspects. This thread is not for you. Everyone please ignore their whiney nonsense.

I formed a hypothesis about this, and can't get it out of my head. A long time ago, I tried to read a fat book set at the end of the last glaciation, but had to give up at the different representation of Neanderthals and Homo sap. The central character was a Homo sap girl brought up in a Neanderthal group. No argument with that as a possibility, given tales of wolves being nice to stray babies. But the Homo nean males were presented as demanding sex as and when they felt like it, using signals not language (which they had not got) and the females having to go along with it. While Homo sap were much more considerate etc. It was a bit porny, and I was young.
There is no evidence for the sex life of our dear dead cousins, and bases on our primate relations, it would be far more equal. Chimps aren't like that, females can have a say in it. As for bonobos, well.
And Neanderthals managed to reproduce and have a culture for thousands of years before Homo sap turned up.
I suspect that Homo sap males behaved like many modern men, like the book presented their predecessors, and that is why the Neanderthals died out, out bred by rapists. But they did not manage to breed out the cooperative instincts of women, and the sticking up for ourselves in us. That's why they make laws about clothes and purdah and come up with idiocies about surrendered wives. If that came naturally, there'd be no need.
For a book I haven't read, it does stick around.

This was the new article https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9vwxlddy9o with the headline "Woman dies after attack while walking dog" The BBC news put out a tweet that even more heavily implied that the dog attacked the woman. But no, a man murdered the woman and isn't even mentioned. In the tweet it was so badly worded that a guy replied and said how badly dogs are behaved nowadays. I know it seems small and semantic but why are we obscuring the reality of men's violent behaviour and only describing the effects and the circumstances around it?

I found the tweet x.com/BBCNews/status/1817675151434981692. There's actually community context added now as it was SO poorly worded. Why are we having to write community notes against the UK's public broadcaster? What is their agenda?

As if anyone has ever been mauled to death by a springer spaniel.

Not sure what point you're trying to make @Sublunar

I know spaniels can be aggressive but they don’t kill people as often as bull terriers do they?

Spectacularly missing the point. The headline made people think that it was a dog attack rather than a violent random murder by a man. WTF has the breed got to do with it?

I know the feeling, MrsTerry. Sending you a hug. I believe women are making progress — though it enrages me that much of it is defending rights that no one ever questioned until recently.

is that the Jean Auel book The clan of the Cave Bear?

It just seems all the more ridiculous to have a headline implying she was killed by her dog instead of a man.

I understood what you meant @sublunar

Clan of the Cave Bear. Sticking up for the author on a side point, she did credit Neanderthals with full language and a rich culture - just the language was signed rather than spoken. She did work with the available science where she could, but obviously relationships had to be speculation. And later In the books she makes it clear H Sap can be pretty rapey [incidentally, so can chimps - although they're not as bad as.orangutans] and does put a lot of emphasis on explaining consent to the main character.

But yes, her view of overall H sap male behaviour was decidedly rose tinted.

And then there's the report of VAWG in the UK now claiming the status of national emergency.

What's happening at the Olympics is a travesty. Charlotte Dujardin was (very rightly) banned from participating in the dressage because of gratuitous cruelty to animals. This is fair sportsmanship as it should be.

Yet this year's unenviable Olympics can count amongst its competitors a convicted rapist and cheating males who beat up women in a contact sport, to the extent that one competitor had to withdraw out of fear for her own life.

When animals receive more protection than women, what kind of society have we created?

It's fucking hideous. And the only people who seemingly care are (some) other women.

That was Clan of the Cave Bear, wasn't it? I read that series, too.

It was the Neanderthal men having sex on demand, not the Cro Magnons. They weren't represented as not having language, but having sign language - elaborate and subtle - rather than spoken.

Can you take some time for yourself, get out, breathe and do something that makes you happy?

And no dog breed kills people as often as men, like in this case,

It's all heartbreaking.

And now those female boxers having to compete against men . 😤

I'm also angry at the sheer amount of women who will go along with it because they all want to look like Mother Teresa. I'm not talking about those who are scared to lose their jobs or that are concerned about any harm their children might come to. I'm talking about those to megaphone BE KIND at other women who sick up for our rights.

I feel like I’m at my absolute limit with men right now. You’re not alone OP.

Two women I know who are the most supporting of trans rights have been posting that khelif is a woman and that the fight was fair. I mean, I just don't know what it's going to take to make these bloody lefty women stop and think that they are endorsing violent men. I despair.

I know exactly how you all feel. I mentioned the boxing to my DP who said “ah but we don’t know all the details though do we?”

Erm no, but we know enough to know that they were considered ineligible on the grounds of chromosomes and/or testosterone levels not being consistent with being a woman in previous competitions.

He replied “the olympics do have tests you know, they won’t have just let them compete if they weren’t eligible as women”.

What’s a woman again?

For starters, it would really help if the major news outlets (BBC I'm looking at you) would obtain and post all the facts on this, which none so far have done, and as far as I know, no-one has all the facts anyway. If they would come out and say, Khelif is/isn't trans, Khelif is/isn't XY/XX, Khelif has/hasn't testosterone levels within the female range, etc. it would give an awful lot of clarity.

I am so angry about these two boxing "matches" that I am almost reduced to expletive ridden inarticulacy.

The added insult of Angela Carini being groped has made me feel so utterly depressed, it was so fucking brazen! I could cry for Angela just for that alone, let alone everything else she and Sitora Turdibekova have been put through and lost because of cheating men.

And people all over the fecking shop are falling over themselves to justify it?!!

Maybe remind him that they let Hubbard compete in 2020.

He replied “the olympics do have tests you know, they won’t have just let them compete if they weren’t eligible as women”

Even the BBC said on last night's news that the IOC has stated they've not carried out either sex [although I think the word used was gender] or testosterone tests.