So fucking sick of it all today

[MrsTerryPratchett]

This week I've dealt with so many fucking shitty pieces of male fuckwittedness I'm angry, miserable, losing sleep. I don't know what I want from you lot of lovely women but I think I just need to scream from a mountaintop.

It's all secondhand, not even me as the victim. But fuck me it's brought up all the absolutely shit I've had to deal with over the years.

No NAMALTing from the usual suspects. This thread is not for you. Everyone please ignore their whiney nonsense.

Should we get back to those discussions of having a retreat island with quokkas?

BouledeSuif I am so sorry for all that you've been through. Wishing you and your DD all the very best. We can make things better. We must.

Good Bones
By Maggie Smith

Life is short, though I keep this from my children.
Life is short, and I’ve shortened mine
in a thousand delicious, ill-advised ways,
a thousand deliciously ill-advised ways
I’ll keep from my children. The world is at least
fifty percent terrible, and that’s a conservative
estimate, though I keep this from my children.
For every bird there is a stone thrown at a bird.
For every loved child, a child broken, bagged,
sunk in a lake. Life is short and the world
is at least half terrible, and for every kind
stranger, there is one who would break you,
though I keep this from my children. I am trying
to sell them the world. Any decent realtor,
walking you through a real shithole, chirps on
about good bones: This place could be beautiful,
right? You could make this place beautiful.

Solidarity with all the women struggling today
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I'm with you OP. The stuff that's happened to me and to women I know that has been perpetrated by men is just awful.

Sending hugs @MrsTerryPratchett and also much appreciation for your FWR wisdom. Sadly Commander Vimes is fictional in all his blackboard monitory glory, otherwise I would send him over with tea and cake.

PS @DubiousGoals I wasn’t getting at you here, I can see now that it looks as though I was, sorry!

My recent examples include a friend whose coercive controlling husband is stalling their divorce so he can spend all their joint money on Thai prostitutes among other things; a friend whose son was exploited by a male paedophile ring when he was in his early teens; numerous friends who have been raped or assaulted; likewise my dd and many of her friends, almost all of whom have experienced awful abusive behaviour from men.

And that's without the men who have patronised me over years and years at work. Whoever said there isn't a male equivalent for bossy is right, men are assertive, not bossy. Men are passionate, not shrill. Misogyny is everywhere and it's getting worse not better.

It's never fucking ending.

I feel bad adding this as I agree by far the most overwhelming problem is the sheer dickishness of most men. But I'd absolutely like to say that some women's attitudes towards men is also a problem. At work, seemingly sensible middle aged women constantly make excuses for, mother, pamper male staff and generally behave in a way they never would to another woman. This ranges from basically doing half their job for them as ('poor dears') they couldn't cope; to the ridiculous concern and coddling of male staff who just have a bit of a sniffle. Somehow this makes me even more mad than the infuriatingly entitled and usually incompetent men themselves!

I’m old enough now to take no shit. An old tosser let his fucking dog come running up to my on lead dog. He got the full force of my anger against the male population.

You are not alone in your frustrations! My particular peeve at the moment is responses to graduation photos on FB where people have attended their daughter's graduation.
Recent one - the daughter of a friend had graduated with a Masters in Aeronautical Engineering/ science or similar (a very male-dominated industry/degree) and with a First no less!

And what was the first comment (from a man, of course...):
'Beautiful girl' 😡
Followed closely with 'lovely photo', 'you look amazing' etc

I made a point of writing something like 'Congratulations you super smart, intelligent young woman! All the best for your new career'

(The comment that made me even more😡was from a male friend of the father saying 'beautiful wife and daughter - you must be so proud')

Along with bossy another word I hate used solely for women - feisty. I've been described as 'feisty' for being passionate about certain things and holding my own in debates/arguments and not backing down. Never heard a man being called feisty 😡.

Yes my eyes have been well and truly opened as to the fact men's outlooks are so different to ours as they are dominated by desire for sex and power. In some men this may be more obvious and overt, but the quieter ones are just more covert and manipulative about it.

PS @DubiousGoals I wasn’t getting at you here, I can see now that it looks as though I was, sorry!

No worries @FictionalCharacter - completely agree with you.

Oops name change fail

A few weeks ago, I was in a supermarket and went to a deli counter with my trolley. My trolley was facing forwards, not sideways, so there was plenty of room for other people to stop at the counter. A man appeared a second later and clearly expected me to give way to him, so he could stand exactly where I was.

I simply stood my ground and he ended up apologising for nearly bumping into me. I don’t think he was an unkind person - he just took it for granted that I would step aside to make way for a man and when I didn’t, he was genuinely surprised! I wonder how many men take it for granted that women will automatically get out of their way?

Oh I could so join in. Very sick of men men men men men men manly men today. I hope that at least in this forum no one barges in with Not My Nigel.

It's quite impressive no one has yet.

I hear you.

I am sick to fucking fuck of male entitlement. It is absolutely everywhere and depressing as fuck.

I had an epiphany a few years ago never to bother with men ever again (relationship wise - sadly cant actually avoid all contact with male species). My god my life had been bloody blissful ever since.

My best friends husband is a whining, pathetic arse and when she ever so gently tries to pull him on stuff, he says she's just "chipping away at him" so she backs off. She sighs and says "He's not that bad, really" but fuck me she is miserable with her life.

So many low bars. So many women putting up with all the usual crap daily. The wife work, extra responsibility, no thanks, etc.

I was married once. My husband assumed I'd do shit like buy his Mum and Dad's birthday and christmas cards and gifts etc. Hahaha. Nope, I'm not your P.A, love.

My 53 year old Autistic self just won't accept this shit any more.

I see it everywhere. Even my own father who I love. And by god do I call him out on it.

Oh alright it must be my turn
Well! Not my Nigel!

I hear you, I really do - scream away, loud as you like. It’s fucking exhausting, isn’t it? x

The US elections are just going to be one huge inescapable torrent of misogyny.

Totally understand.
The day before yesterday I was feeling completely overwhelmed by various bollocks. My shite tolerance had been well and truly breached.
I sat in my conservatory with my cat looking at the garden for a long time to try and recover some equilibrium.
I agree that alongside the awful wankerness of so many men what often finishes me off is betrayal by other women who collude and excuse. I understand that we have all been subject to decades of internalised sexism and misogyny but it is such a huge let down that many women insist they are empowered and making choices etc when male approval drives their choices.
And the women who side with men (especially “good looking” ones) against other women.
I feel like screaming too.

Wouldn’t it be great if people could see this when we transpose the language to men?

Daniel is very headstrong. Jason is a bossy little chap. Fred is too emotional to be in a position of authority. Carl is bitchy. Dave is awfully shrill. Jeremy is really irritable today, must be his hormones. Steve is as quiet as a little mouse, isn’t he?

In the tabloids:

Premier League footballer John shows off his toned midriff as he poses on the beach in a pair of skimpy shorts.

Actor Graham wows the crowd as he flaunts his tanned chest and toned legs in a tight outfit.

I mean, people would laugh, but they’d laugh because they know this demeaning treatment is reserved for women.

In my younger days i often saw a man's true colours when he realised he didn't have a cat in hells chance of getting me into bed . As quoted by a man I knew " If women didn't have holes , men wouldn't even speak to them ".

This is a bit long winded, but it demonstrates how even other women expect women to shut up, budge up and be nice.
We have a field with sheep and horses in it, woman lets her dog in to chase rabbits, dog upsets sheep dreadfully, sheep will run to exhaustion. We explain to woman why our fenced field is not available to her dog, get gobfulls of abuse back, including bring told to fuck off while on my own property. Talk to local chap who has a few sheep, he had similar run in with same woman, except she apologised to him and accepted that she needs to get training for her dog!