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So fucking sick of it all today

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MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2024 01:27

This week I've dealt with so many fucking shitty pieces of male fuckwittedness I'm angry, miserable, losing sleep. I don't know what I want from you lot of lovely women but I think I just need to scream from a mountaintop.

It's all secondhand, not even me as the victim. But fuck me it's brought up all the absolutely shit I've had to deal with over the years.

No NAMALTing from the usual suspects. This thread is not for you. Everyone please ignore their whiney nonsense.

Angry
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OhcantthInkofaname · 25/07/2024 01:31

But it seems to be so many of them...

UtopiaPlanitia · 25/07/2024 02:41

You have my sympathy - it really can all pile up sometimes and become too much 💐

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2024 03:18

Thanks.

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Omlettes · 25/07/2024 03:19

I hear you.

TemuSpecialBuy · 25/07/2024 03:36

i feel you.

i think what also makes it harder is that, in general, I’ve never felt less hopeful about the future (eg energy crisis, col crisis, antifa, trump, uk political landscape, the environment, big pharma, microplastics in our food, the fact it won’t stop fucking raining… just everything)

it just seems so bleak and hopeless generally and then you add on to that the fact it seems to inexorably by moving backwards for women…

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/07/2024 03:49

Backwards is how I feel. I try to help but I feel like I'm swimming in treacle.

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PaminaMozart · 25/07/2024 04:00

I know I've led a sheltered life in many ways. Mumsnet has been a real education. What is it with men...

One of the saddest things is seeing so many women walking blindly into relationships that make me want to scream at them...... wake up, what are you doing... And then, when they're trapped, they are ill equipped to save themselves.

Whatever it is you're dealing with, @MrsTerryPratchett , I feel for you.

Swamphag · 25/07/2024 06:10

💐
If it makes you feel any better I posted a couple of months ago in a similar vein. I gave specific instances and I'm pleased to say that one of the fuckwits I posted about finally got what was coming to him. The fallout has been horrendous but it has given me faith that karma will get them in the end. The support I had from a majority of the lovely women on here made me feel less like I was swimming against the tide. The were a few dick pandering and NAMALTing responses but on the whole everyone got it.
Hope your week improves x

MangoPorrridge · 25/07/2024 06:16

Yes I hear you.
I am a lesbian and spend so much of my life being angry at the relationships some of my straight female friends have ended up in. Not to mention the issues with male privilege at work. etc etc
Ugh

misscockerspaniel · 25/07/2024 06:18

Probably a bit early for this 🍷

Newnamehiwhodis · 25/07/2024 06:18

Yes. I hear you. I have my days of this rage, as well. Fuck them. (Or rather: don’t. Do not fuck them. The creeps)

YellowAsteroid · 25/07/2024 06:35

Men are bastards. They should all pay an extra 2% tax to cover the simple extra costs of their violence and arrogance. Then they might do something about it.

CrumpledBankNote · 25/07/2024 06:41

Probably not on the same level but I had a client meeting yesterday with a brand new client and the first thing he did was kiss me on the cheek.

Then on the train home I had a guy spread his thighs so wide he was rubbing my legs despite the fact I was crushed into a corner. And another man basically rested his entire torso on my back despite there being a lot of space. Funnily, a woman has never done that to me.

Same day, an angry man yelled aggressively at me at on my doorstep for a delivery that I had absolutely nothing to do with (but I bet he wouldn't have yelled if my 6 foot husband opened the door).

And finally get in the car to see my lovely children and at the lights a van pulled up alongside me and stared through the window leering. Even in my locked car I'm not alone. I'm not even particularly attractive - just have a vagina and breasts.

I feel you op, I feel you.

NancyDrawed · 25/07/2024 07:09

Mumsnet FWR has made me see and react to behaviours that I would have just accepted previously.

My fairly trivial example from yesterday:

I had a health appt and the man in front of me in the queue stood dead centre, wide stance, taking up the whole of the available space at the reception desk (which has a perspex screen too) while he was talking to one of two receptionists. The other called out 'Who's next?' and I approached, expecting the bloke to take perhaps a single step to the side to give me room. He did not. So I stood very close to him and did an exaggerated lean so I could see the face of the receptionist behind her screen and yet... he still did not move an inch.

She got it and smirked, as did the woman behind me when I turned round, but fuck me, do these men just not realise? Or do they know and not care - clearly being far more important than anyone else?

So I too am so fucking sick of it all MrsTP, I feel your pain!

Setyoufree · 25/07/2024 07:16

I hear you. I'm lucky to work in a male dominated industry that seems to be full of unusually self aware men who go out of their way to not be like this, but my commute and my every day life is littered with examples just like what you've listed.

As a mum of girls it makes me so sad and angry. Though having daughters does seem to wake men up as DH can see it more now too. Though when he does unthinking things like talking over them when they're saying stuff I get so angry. Luckily the girls get angry too 😁

Fetlocksblowininthewind · 25/07/2024 07:25

Some days are so hard! I'm sorry you are having a rough week with it. I swing between despair, rage, and little flickers of hopefulness a lot these days.

I just wanted to say that although I tend to lurk more than post, I've often found myself nodding along to your posts, reading what you (and so many other wonderful women here) have to say has helped me in so many ways.

So thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice here, it does make a difference even if you might not ever meet some of the people in real life, or even realise that something you have said really helped them 💐

MrsTartanTeacosy · 25/07/2024 07:42

@TemuSpecialBuy put my feelings, eloquently.

@YellowAsteroid love this idea.

Heard, here to everyone and especially @Fetlocksblowininthewind as that was exactly the post to Mrs TP I’ve been wanting to post for ages.

@MrsTerryPratchett your sagacity and thoughtfulness shine out of Mumsnet, I always nod along and just knowing such like-minded people actually are out there can help on the days I’m feeling I’m screaming in to the abyss. So thank you, and I very much hope your week draws to a calmer end.

lcakethereforeIam · 25/07/2024 07:53

Flowers @MrsTerryPratchett but there are some lovely people out there, you being a case in point. But why does one fuckwit contaminate a whole bucket of loveliness? I try to see the flowers, not the weeds, or see the good in the weed but jc it's hard. It's good to vent.

ArabellaScott · 25/07/2024 08:03
Flowers

Have a wee song, OP.

Bodeganights · 25/07/2024 08:38

I hear ya Mrs tp, sometimes you just get so fucked off, one last thing does you in.

Take time for yourself, get outside, leave soc med or at least ignore for now.
Do whatever you have to til you feel better able.
I will wryly suggest a spa day, my personal idea of hell, but it forever comes up on this site.

INeedAPensieve · 25/07/2024 09:03

Just posting to also say I get it, sorry you're going through a tough time and 💐

Ps I have two v young boys & god help me I'm going to try and teach them to get it, to really get it. Even my lovely dad will accept my DH's opinion over mine or talk over me sometimes, it drives me nuts. It is a man's world all right...

SeventiesFlair · 25/07/2024 09:06

Another lurker who wanted to say a big thank you for what you do on this board. You have helped me get better at articulating and understanding my own boundaries. I stand up more for me, I stand up more for those around me, I bring these issues up more in conversation. I am very grateful for what you do. And for today, solidarity! They’re fuckers. Fuck ‘em. We’ll keep pushing forward

Wishihadanalgorithm · 25/07/2024 09:11

I could join in but I don’t think my blood pressure will like it.

I’mso lucky that I know some decent men. However I have a DD who is entering puberty and I’m already thinking about the different ways she’s going to have to protect herself.

At 10 she had boys call her fat (she isn’t, she just tall and strong, clever and an all rounder). I had to explain that the “negging” was to pull her down and put her back into her box as they were beginning to be aware of what it means to be male and she just beats them in every aspect at school, so they pull her down.

It starts so fucking young.

A teacher friend had to call a parent and explain her 17 year old son was “play fighting” at school and that it’s dangerous. The mum uttered the phrase, “Boys will be boys.” My friend assured her he’s now the size of a man and a student who was doing similar recently ended up in hospital after it went horribly wrong. So no it’s not “boys will be boys.” What chance has that kid got with a parent who rolls out this old chestnut?

Jeez!

OP, I’m with you on this.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/07/2024 09:13

Solidarity. I work in police custody and I'm nearly at the end of my tether. Men are cunts. (NAMALT 🙄, my partner is one of the few good ones) but no, they really are the cuntier sex class. I've met some horrendous women but it's nothing compared to the men. I'm verbally abused by both sexes but the way some men speak to me is world's apart.

Even today a woman security worker who transports prisoners was commenting on how a new young (male) member of staff has had to be spoken to regarding his creepy behaviour towards women staff. He's only been there two weeks!

The majority of humans don't commit crime but of the ones who do, men are horrendous. I'll stand by that any day of the week.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 25/07/2024 09:22

Sometimes you do just have to scream.

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