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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FFS disability is now on the pride flag

517 replies

sashh · 16/07/2024 08:58

I'm livid. I'm disabled and I do not want to be represented on the LGBTQ+ flag.

Also this quote: Dayna Halliwell (she/her), Content and Engagement Manager at Evenbreak, led the collaboration and organised the Pride visit. She said: “It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade.”

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride/

New Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag unveiled at London Pride

Image description: Evenbreak team members in pink t-shirts carry the new Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag in the London Pride Parade alongside Valentino Vechietti, dressed in white. Photo credit: Ma…

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride

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NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 09:58

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 09:49

I am very well educated on it, thank you.

I'm asking them to clarify what they are saying. Are they calling anyone who identifies as queer and paedophile and fetishist?

People who are paedophiles and fetishists identify themselves as queer. There’s a difference.

One of the tenets of Queer Theory is removal of boundaries of relationships, including age.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:00

Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 09:54

Omg prepare for the OUTRAGE of daring to say that anyone and everyone can just self identify as ND now and how disgusting and offensive it is to those with an actual diagnosis.
Every man and his dog is either identifying themselves or self identifying kids as ND even when it's clear the professional are pushing back on these self assertions.

Speaking of identifying into things, a couple of times over the past few months I've read items on the BBC website where they've referred to people who 'identity as muslims' which I thought was a bit odd. Surely you are either a Muslim or you aren't?
I don't understand the idea of replacing fact with personal opinion because it is clearly nonsense.

alittleprivacy · 16/07/2024 10:00

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

You'd have to be pretty homophobic to keep adding to that flag to the point that LGB people now seem to be represented on about 8% of their own flag.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:00

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 09:51

Then get off your arse and campaign and do the work to get it included. Don't get all upset when other people do that and get what they want included.

It's like the men moaning that other people don't do enough to celebrate international mens day while they do nothing about it themselves, just wait for others to do it for them.

Queer Theory destroys everything. Including understanding sarcasm.

K0OLA1D · 16/07/2024 10:00

elliejjtiny · 16/07/2024 09:18

Because disability and LGBTQ are completely different things. It would be like having a flag for disabled people and vegetarians.

Also I don't feel like celebrating my disability most of the time.

I'm a disabled vegetarian... just putting that out there.

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:01

paywalled · 16/07/2024 09:56

She didn't say that. You're clearly looking for a soundbite you can screenshot for Twitter/x.

I was asking for clarification.

Despite the fact that Queer is not a "gender identity".

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:01

K0OLA1D · 16/07/2024 10:00

I'm a disabled vegetarian... just putting that out there.

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

Devonbabs · 16/07/2024 10:02

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

Ah, straight out the Dentons playbook.

Can you really not see? In what way are the difficulties faced by disabled people in any way the same as those faced by gay people? Are you saying disabled people should become professional victims?

Has anyone ever faced difficulty getting up a flight of stairs because they’re in a same sex relationship?

Often there can be a conflict. Trans using disabled toilets is often in direct contravention of Disabled rights.

You can see why they want to do it, to bolster numbers. Just as you have done, it will soon be “well if you don’t support Transpeople it means you hate disabled people because they are on our flag too.”

We are not stupid we 100% see the motives and tactics being used here.

I feel sorry for the gay community - especially women having pride hijacked.

FFS disability is now on the pride flag
NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 10:03

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 09:56

What is your criteria for someone being disabled?

If the criteria of the other categories set by the flag’s proponents is anything to go by, then it’s anyone who identifies as disabled. You can self identify into all the other categories on the flag, so no reason why that should be any different by their logic.

CocoapuffPuff · 16/07/2024 10:04

K0OLA1D · 16/07/2024 10:00

I'm a disabled vegetarian... just putting that out there.

Would you prefer brocolli or red peppers on your flag? On a background of mixed lentils - were not lentilphobic here sniffs in disapproval at those who are

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:04

NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 09:58

People who are paedophiles and fetishists identify themselves as queer. There’s a difference.

One of the tenets of Queer Theory is removal of boundaries of relationships, including age.

They do not! Seriously. Paedophiles do not (outside of one or two freaks) identify as queer due to their paedophilia.

Yes, I know some people who their fetishism is part of their queer identity. I know people who identify as queer because they don't fit the gay or bi box, so consider themselves queer. I don't know ANYONE who considers queer a gender identitity.

WickedSerious · 16/07/2024 10:05

ThePoshUns · 16/07/2024 09:14

Quote if the day. Eventually we will all be ' othered' there will be no others.

We'll all be part of their grift.

WhatsUpNowThen · 16/07/2024 10:05

Then get off your arse and campaign and do the work to get it included. Don't get all upset when other people do that and get what they want included

Whoosh!!!

Benjilassi · 16/07/2024 10:06

I am a straight, able-bodied woman and my knowledge of the Pride movement is what I hear on the news and see on SM.

Until today I thought Pride was about gender. Now I see the modern flag represents diversity and hope.

I think that each representation will become so diluted so it will become meaningless. A Pride march could include everyone.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:07

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:01

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

Bean Cornbread GIF

The Chickpea didn't mash itself.

MattSmithsBowTie · 16/07/2024 10:07

I would’ve assumed the pride flag already represented people who are both disabled and same sex attracted, but if it’s just there for all disabled people that’s a bit weird, what next?

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:07

Chersfrozenface · 16/07/2024 09:58

Presumably this new addition refers to straight disabled people.

Justeanbiscuits says not:
"It's just including the disabled people who already fall under the banner, as it were. The inclusion has been led by LGBTQ disabled people."

Why are disabled people being represented twice on the same flag - a flag that was originally about same sex attraction?

If a group of people have something in common (same sex attraction) then why dilute that by breaking the group down to smaller sub groups?

Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 10:07

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:01

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

Stop giving them ideas. I swear to Lucifer, I'll hunt you down @BloodyHellKenAgain if anything vegan turns up on that flag! 😂

JustThatEnby · 16/07/2024 10:07

I think it’s a good thing for the people that want to be represented like that, if you don’t then just don’t associate with it? Isn’t going to matter in your life, but maybe it’ll help in someone elses

SeeSeeRider · 16/07/2024 10:07

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

I agree. I think diversity is the most important thing. I fully support the inclusion of disability in Pride.

Katiesaidthat · 16/07/2024 10:08

Isn´t this a bit odd? It´s like letting slip that being gay is a disability, which is what the most ardent homophobes have always said. Down this road lies madness.

Suzieandthemonkeyfeet · 16/07/2024 10:08

MillyNair · 16/07/2024 09:55

I take it that there are LGBTQ people who are also disabled?

Yes there are. But they are already represented by the LGBT acronym.

Just like there are Christian and Muslim LGBT but you’d never expect the star & crescent or the cross added to the flag.

This is just a huge money making machine now and it’s lost all credibility. Even the original members of stone wall & pride have distanced them selves from it.

By adding the disability sign it’s just another income revenue/ taking from charities that have long established work with disabled people.

I hope there is a way that this can be taken to court as it’s all about money

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:09

Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 10:07

Stop giving them ideas. I swear to Lucifer, I'll hunt you down @BloodyHellKenAgain if anything vegan turns up on that flag! 😂

😂😂😂😂
It's only a matter of time before the grift turns to supermarket sponsorship and that carrot appears.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:09

Benjilassi · 16/07/2024 10:06

I am a straight, able-bodied woman and my knowledge of the Pride movement is what I hear on the news and see on SM.

Until today I thought Pride was about gender. Now I see the modern flag represents diversity and hope.

I think that each representation will become so diluted so it will become meaningless. A Pride march could include everyone.

Pride was about gays and lesbians.

Same Sex Attracted people wanting the rights to live their lives normally. And who campaigned for laws to do so.

Not this utter abomination of Trans and Gender and all the fetishes and furries and nonsense screaming 'LOOK AT ME whilst they urinate in the streets and give each other blow jobs in front of kids. As witnessed at this year's 'PRIDE'.

It hasn't been about same sex attracted people for years.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:10

It's all about Corporate Marginalisation these days. Yes it is an oxymoron. No that doesn't seem to matter.

FFS disability is now on the pride flag