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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FFS disability is now on the pride flag

517 replies

sashh · 16/07/2024 08:58

I'm livid. I'm disabled and I do not want to be represented on the LGBTQ+ flag.

Also this quote: Dayna Halliwell (she/her), Content and Engagement Manager at Evenbreak, led the collaboration and organised the Pride visit. She said: “It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade.”

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride/

New Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag unveiled at London Pride

Image description: Evenbreak team members in pink t-shirts carry the new Disability-Inclusive Pride Flag in the London Pride Parade alongside Valentino Vechietti, dressed in white. Photo credit: Ma…

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride

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Combattingthemoaners · 16/07/2024 10:11

Why choose to be offended by this? I am gay and don’t really see myself as part of the LGBTQ+ community. However, I respect people’s right to want to form this kind of community as a safe place and celebration of diversity. If your personal belief or identity doesn’t align with it then no one is forcing you to be part of it.

NameChange0101010101 · 16/07/2024 10:11

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 09:49

I am very well educated on it, thank you.

I'm asking them to clarify what they are saying. Are they calling anyone who identifies as queer and paedophile and fetishist?

You will be well aware then that some of the groups pushing for inclusion under the pride umbrella are minor attracted persons (aka paedophiles) and pro bestiality.

Noting this does not equal 'anyone who identifies as queer is a paedophile and fetishist' .

You will also be aware that 'queer' is offensive to some LGB people, as is the appropriation of homosexuality by 'spicy straights'.

This forced teaming does no one to the left of the T any favours.

lemans · 16/07/2024 10:12

I wont feel included until I have my own Pantone reference.

NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 10:12

JusteanBiscuits · 16/07/2024 10:04

They do not! Seriously. Paedophiles do not (outside of one or two freaks) identify as queer due to their paedophilia.

Yes, I know some people who their fetishism is part of their queer identity. I know people who identify as queer because they don't fit the gay or bi box, so consider themselves queer. I don't know ANYONE who considers queer a gender identitity.

(outside of one or two freaks)

So some do then. Glad we agree.

You say queer is not a gender identity. Others say it is. Given this confusion and it can mean anything: gay, straight, bi, trans, what’s it in the initialism for then?

Duckyfondant · 16/07/2024 10:12

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

Not really. A celebration of diversity would include everyone

Giggorata · 16/07/2024 10:12

Surely it's about including those who are attracted to people with disabilities?

Quietnights · 16/07/2024 10:12

I know people who identify as queer because they don't fit the gay or bi box, so consider themselves queer So you mean straight people?

I am a straight, able-bodied woman and my knowledge of the Pride movement is what I hear on the news and see on SM. Until today I thought Pride was about gender. Now I see the modern flag represents diversity and hope
And here is the clearest statement I have ever read of how gay men and lesbian women have been written out of their own movement by gender ideology.

Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 10:12

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 16/07/2024 09:16

Shall we include race? Language? Minority language groups should be considered too.

The pride flag was about sexual orientation. When you stick disability in to whitewash having included fetish, then you're doubling down on the mistake.

It already includes race

TheBerry · 16/07/2024 10:12

I guess it’s for people who are both disabled and queer.

Idk I guess just ignore it if you don’t like it.

WickedSerious · 16/07/2024 10:14

pilo7 · 16/07/2024 09:47

I think it's outrageous that vegans, the left-handed and the cat-gender community aren't represented. 'Inclusion' my arse.

No gingers either.

Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 10:14

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

The Pride flag is homophobic. It represents an ideology that labels same-sex attraction as ‘sexual racism’ and declares lesbians must include men who identify as women in their dating circle or they are transphobic.

WhatsUpNowThen · 16/07/2024 10:14

Surely vegans and vegetarians must be represented on the pride flag. Maybe by adding a carrot or a chickpea?

It's supposed to be joyous. Needs to be a Vego bar.

Quietnights · 16/07/2024 10:14

I am waiting to see what the colour and symbol will be for gender critical people. Gender critical gays and lesbians exist, right? So they should be on the flag if its about diversity, right?

Allthatsbeautifuldriftsaway · 16/07/2024 10:14

Oh dear the more they add the less meaning it has

Quietnights · 16/07/2024 10:15

Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 10:14

The Pride flag is homophobic. It represents an ideology that labels same-sex attraction as ‘sexual racism’ and declares lesbians must include men who identify as women in their dating circle or they are transphobic.

The Pride flag isn't.

The Progress Pride flag is.

NotBadConsidering · 16/07/2024 10:15

TheBerry · 16/07/2024 10:12

I guess it’s for people who are both disabled and queer.

Idk I guess just ignore it if you don’t like it.

It’s all very well trying to ignore it.

Until the forced teaming starts.

“Sandra is a proud transwoman in a wheelchair. Are you so hateful to her you don’t accept her trans identity because she’s disabled?! Double bigot!!”

Waffle78 · 16/07/2024 10:16

As a mum of two both with disabilities i hated this all this I'm proud of my disability. I would rather they weren't and could have a normal life. There will also be a minority that will take the piss.

Suzieandthemonkeyfeet · 16/07/2024 10:16

Katiesaidthat · 16/07/2024 10:08

Isn´t this a bit odd? It´s like letting slip that being gay is a disability, which is what the most ardent homophobes have always said. Down this road lies madness.

I don’t think the aim is that per se.

I do think it’s about money and eligibility for go for disability funds which would have been ear marked for other disability charities - and it would be hard to track what money was actually spent on disabled people.

Once being gay and lesbian became normal and marriage rights were won - donations started drying up - hence the terrific push for trans identity.

Also it opens the door for people to ‘identify’ as disabled. We could see non disabled people receiving money that should have gone to actual disabled people.

It’s a fucking mess what this group of people are allowed to do.

Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 10:17

Queer theory definitely includes paedophilia. All the big queer theory academics are quite clear on that and see no problem with it.

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:17

JohnnyAndTheDead · 16/07/2024 09:03

Why not?

Because disability is not about sexual orientation. It is frequently not something people want to celebrate, either. Also, by the time Pride flags are done they will be meaningless. The rainbow was about being able to be truthful about sexuality. Now it's a carry-all for a lot of cultists.

AlisonDonut · 16/07/2024 10:17

Combattingthemoaners · 16/07/2024 10:11

Why choose to be offended by this? I am gay and don’t really see myself as part of the LGBTQ+ community. However, I respect people’s right to want to form this kind of community as a safe place and celebration of diversity. If your personal belief or identity doesn’t align with it then no one is forcing you to be part of it.

It is't about being offended.

It is about money going to flags instead of actual ways of making lives easier for actual disabled people.

In fact when they spend loads of cash on rainbow crossings, that guide dogs cannot recognise and are not safe because drivers don't have to stop at them - it puts actual people with disabilites at risk.

IREALLYDONTCARE · 16/07/2024 10:17

I'm disabled, working in the disability sector, and I can tell you now that Evenbreak does not have as good a reputation amongst the disability community as they portray, or the level of success they would have you believe.
This doesn't surprise me.

Orangeandgold · 16/07/2024 10:18

Pride is a celebration of sexuality- not diversity!!!!!

Diversity in sexuality- yes. Not diversity of people.

Should we start putting races on there too? This is coming from someone from the global south who constantly has their race chucked into conversations that try to reason arguments about sexuality with comparisons to racism.

Demonhunter · 16/07/2024 10:18

BloodyHellKenAgain · 16/07/2024 10:09

😂😂😂😂
It's only a matter of time before the grift turns to supermarket sponsorship and that carrot appears.

If I have to denounce veganism because it's appears I'll not only have to change my business name I'll have to turn down any food deemed vegan. I'm going to be Marjorie Doors aren't I 😑

FFS disability is now on the pride flag
gamerchick · 16/07/2024 10:18

WaitingForMojo · 16/07/2024 09:05

It’s a celebration of diversity, is it not?

Unless you’re incredibly homophobic and don’t want to be associated, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with it.

No no, you don't get to do that. You don't get to insert the words to make people shut up. Hmm it doesn't work anymore.