Spouse says men can use Ladies to change baby nappy?

[Bunty2727]

Im not a mum. I just went into the public toilet (to put up some single sex signs lol) and as I approached a man was just about to enter with a baby, I said excuse me I dont think you are allowed to use the ladies, he replied, pointing at the baby change sign, you can go in first if you like, I repeated, I dont think you can use the ladies, when I came out he had gone. Spouse said Im wrong, he’s allowed. googled and cannot see an answer?

I feel so sorry and concerned for the handmaidens on this thread and in rl.

To be so naive and # be kind to men.

Let's the rest of us down massively. We're trying to protect ourselves and daughters.

It's been heard of for sexual predators to have children, believe it or not.

Ah so you admit it's never happened but you're waiting for it to happen?

Well welll we have husbands, sons and daughters. So trump your paranoia.

and did he then say: well that's shit because i don't want to go in the ladies toilet?

When a business does this, they are committing sex discrimination. This should be protested and litigated against, not tolerated.

Men have raped babies. https://nypost.com/2005/06/07/vile-perv-bust-raped-infant-cops/ Literally nothing stops them from taking a baby into the loo as a pretext for raping an adult woman.

Actually this is the only time I would 100% stand in solidarity with men using the ladies. If there's no changing table in the men's, what's he supposed to do? Leave his baby with a shitty nappy?

Well if it never happens, and men are welcome in the ladies, why have separate toilets in the first place?

Apparently yes. In case he’s a rapist with a doll.

How do you change a baby in a toilet cubicle? Lay the baby across the toilet? Doesn't sound likely.

Completely agree.
The baby's needs are paramount in my opinion.

How do you know whether it's a genuine shitty nappy case or a sexual predator?

How would you know? After a woman or girl has been attacked?

The lack of understanding of reality is, imo, one reason why we will never eradicate the sexual abuse of women and girls. No, not all men abuse, but the ones who do don't wear a badge to tell us they do. Men and it is still overwhelmingly men, sexually abuse women and girls. Some of those men are fathers, some predate the baby sitter, some go "hunting" with a Baby seat in their car. Anyone who minimises this risk puts more women and girls at risk and also reduce the help available to survivors of sexual assault, by minimising it.
Women fought for single sex public lavatories, to enable women to participate in civic life. Women require single sex spaces for dignity, privacy and safety.

Yes, but we also know our own husbands/partners would never dream of going into the ladies...even with a baby with a soiled nappy. They'd come up with some other solution.

Who's going hold the baby for him whiles he's attacking these women?

He can do what women do all the time when caring for babies with no baby change available, which is to find somewhere out of the way to change the baby on the floor on a change mat, or similar. And then carry the bagged-up dirty nappy home.

Men will pretend to be gay to lure women into a false sense of safety prior to raping them. They will present TV shows dedicated to making sick kids dreams come true to lure kids and their parents into a false sense of safety.

Realistically, the question shouldn't be "is there a publicised instance of men using X to facilitate rape?", given how few rapes are ever reported. The question should be "what stops a man from using X to facilitate rape?".

Tell me that you don't have the security mindset without telling me that you don't have the security mindset.

Do you think he cares?

New York post ROFL

Why is not living my life in fear of all men make me 'hand Maiden'
I would rather that than be scared of every possible risk.
I hate the trite 'be kind' label, but if I'm going to be kind I'm not going to discriminate against half the population just because they happen to be male. What an awful way to live .

He can put a blanket on the floor like everyone else.

Over 95% of sexual offending is perpetrated by men. Male sexual assault of women has the risk of leaving the victim pregnant. It's not all men, but it's almost always men. Given that pregnancy is a life-changing consequence for female victims, it makes sense to separate men and women in places where women are undressing, sleeping, or otherwise vulnerable.

Good men understand this and respect female-only spaces.