Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

[Heylo]

i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

1. The genuine look the same as the predatory. We can't tell!
2. Men competing as women in sport has nothing to do with genuine/not it's about male privilege and taking away opportunities from women.
3. How can women still not get the dangers.

I'm beginning to see how Just Stop Oil members must feel. Or those saying in the 60s smoking is killing people. It's like that film Don't Look Up.

Women failed each other yesterday.

Because I was specifically referring to violence perpetrated by non-trans identified men, as opposed to violence perpetrated by trans identified men. I think violence and abuse against women and girls perpetrated by "cis" men, "traditional men" non-trans identified men or whatever you want to call them matters - and has flourished under the conservatives.

so what do you think those women should have done?

should lesbians vote for homophobes in Reform?
should disabled women vote Tories who want to remove £12b from PIP funds?
should WOC vote Reform whose candidates whip up hatred against them?
should single mothers struggling to make ends meet vote for Tories who won't improve her financial situation while the 1% get richer?
should the 600,000 women waiting for Gynae referral or treatment with NHS England vote for the Tories who have ensured these waiting lists are the highest they have ever been?

Those women made a choice based on their experiences and those they care about. How dare you say they either aren't informed or don't care about the the issues Women face. I'd love to not have to worry about poverty, healthcare disparity, homophobia or racism. Must be nice to not have any of those risks affecting your life.

Who did you vote for then @Heylo ?

I agree with this - and trans ideology and gender woo became prevalent under the Tories, so not entirely sure why Labour are getting the blame for the erosion of women's rights. Having said that, and living in a safe LibDem seat, I did spoil my ballot paper over the issue of women's rights, as I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the main parties.

Why do some posters struggle with the idea that women can be concerned about more than one issue, all at the same time?

I also don't get the mentality of posters who flock to these threads where women highlight concerns about the impact of self ID/gender ideology to say that because it doesn't affect them, they know lovely transwomen, it's not an important issue etc etc etc they just shout down the ones who do care about it? It's clearly important to a lot of people. Just let us crack on with talking about it.

VAT on private school fees isn't an issue to me in any way shape or form, I don't get why going on to those threads to tell parents it's a non issue and to calm down about it is anything other than a waste of my time (which obviously I don’t do).

Hopefully when Labour look at the numbers behind the seats they'll reflect. They only won ours because reform took 40% of the tory vote. Yes the future of women's rights does worry me under Labour but I still voted for them because education, NHS, social care, economy etc. We can not continue having the tories destroy the country from the bottom up

People wanted Labour - they got Labour. Warts and all. My child’s school has already told us that there is no way boys (ones who were born with a penis) will ever be using the girls toilets no matter what they identify as. Instead they have a few ‘available for all’ toilets put in.

I know more than 1 or even ‘3’ people with trans identities. Many mumsnetters know multiple people with trans identities.

Perhaps it is you who are in the tiny minority not knowing any.

It only goes round in circles because women who don't really care about the conflict iof rights inherent in trans ideology, or who consideer it unimportant, or who actively support trans ideology continue to post on the section of mumsnet dedicated to discussing it.

At its best this particular sub forum has been an incredibly important resource, meeting place, and debating chamber for the women who consider this an issue of fundamental importance.

Fortunately, none of this will happen.

Your child will have sex education at school which will be age appropriate.

They are only 0.5% of the adult population. PP are talking about children in schools.

That's extremely disappointing to hear.

It's all turkeys voting for Christmas.

Women have voted for labour as they're sensible enough to realise that single sex hospital wards are irrelevant if you're dying unattended in a corridor in A&E.

Actually many schools use teaching resources from activist organisations and do teach gender ideology as a fact...rather than as a contested theory. Also, many schools have activist teachers running LGBTQ+ lunchtime clubs.

Who should the women in the U.K. have voted for then? Out of interest.

Remember that you said that when the puberty blockers are handed out like sweets and the transing of other people's children gets back underway in schools.

Because who is more qualified than the P.E and French teachers to make these decisions.

The Conservatives were doing little enough but they did stem the tide.

Try telling that to the 5 NHS nurses currently taking legal action against their trust for forcing them to change in front of a man. ..leaving them upset and in tears before they even begin their shift...and who were disciplined by their mamagers and told to "re-educate" themselves.

No, it’s like saying that you work at a food bank and can reassure people that there isn’t a policy to put poison in the food.

I have a child at primary school and this just doesn’t happen. As JT69 says, it’s good to look at the curriculum. Of course be aware of what’s going on but it’s unhelpful to encourage people to be terrified of something that isn’t happening.

If people really think that a Labour government will make sex education compulsory in primary school (which it isn’t) and make take place in infant years (which it doesn’t) and remove the right to withdraw (which currently exists) and prevent parents from being directly told what is in any such education (which teachers currently have to do) then I’m sure there will be an outcry about it if and when it happens.

But “cis” men do this sort of thing all the time?? There are no safe spaces, there are no single sex spaces. Men can and do invade spaces which are not for them. Men don’t need to transition to
prey on women.

I think it's more people voting based on priorities tbh.

Sadly, Labour was the least worst option in most constituencies.

Trans people are tiny percent of the population, this is such a non-issue. You've just been sucked in

Not all turkeys celebrate Christmas, and some turkeys have other more immediate concerns.