Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

Better safe, totally.... so my search results bring up this website. Ontario Health Commission...

Gender identity is each person’s internal and individual experience of gender. It is a person’s sense of being a woman, a man, both, neither, or anywhere along the gender spectrum. A person’s gender identity may be the same as or different from their birth-assigned sex.

Gender expression is how a person publicly expresses or presents their gender. This can include behaviour and outward appearance such as dress, hair, make-up, body language and voice. A person’s chosen name and pronoun are also common ways of expressing gender. Others perceive a person’s gender through these attributes.

This is in response to a question about what G identify is.

I’m not asking for a broad explanation of gender identity from a Canadian Health Commission. I’m asking you to explain what identifying as a woman entails.

No you're not.

You think people who want to see a same sex healthcare provider should challenge their prejudices!

You think womanhood is just an 'identity' people can try on and don't realise how offensive that is to be people who have suffered because - and only because - of their womanhood.

Ahhh, I thought you were asking for the information... You would like to know what my personal view on gender identity is?

Canada is completely captured by gender ideology. It is not an unbiased source of information. Do you not recognise that the state sponsorship of this absolute rubbish is why people are so concerned?

Is this your evidence as to why ChishiyaBat's post was 'incorrect'?

A health commissions definition based on a person's own philosophical belief about themselves?

I want to know how someone identifies as a woman.

Yes, @Humtum what does a 'sense of being a woman' actually feel like?

No, it was reply to a question on 'what is gender identity'
Followed by a quick google
Followed by a reply - with the caveat that my google search results might be different based on my location

Many other sources can provide this information and distinction. UK too....

Always the way on here, it never changes
If you don't toe the line view wise, it's "you're a man!"
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That’s not the question I asked.

It should be easily answerable for those who think men can identify as woman.

How does someone identify as a woman?

Can you explain why you stated that chishiya's post was 'incorrect' please?

What part was factually incorrect?

Are you suggesting we wait until we have a fresh mountain of evidence against allowing women and girls to have single spaces

Clearly not, since I haven’t said that.

What I said was we HAVE evidence of harm, because people have EXPERIENCED harm and that has been acknowledged.
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1. the acknowledgement that 99% of sexual crimes perpetrated against women and girls are perpetrated by men

We know this because of the evidence of individual’s experiences.

1. the acknowledgement of the role of testosterone in patterns of offending behaviour

We know this because of the evidence of individual’s experiences

1. acknowledgement that men are almost always stronger than any women or girl and can therefore over power them

The strength issue is observable without individual experience being relevant, but we know men use that strength to overpower women because of the evidence of individual’s experiences.

1. dignity - the acceptance that most people would prefer not to be in state of undress amongst strangers of the opposite sex

We know this because of the evidence of individual’s experiences

I told you we could list the rationale for this widely accepted belief without giving examples based on personal experience. Do I actually need to do that?

They might not be based on your personal experience, but they are all based on people’s experiences.

If all the people who have spoken out about these incidents had been told their personal experiences weren’t relevant we wouldn’t have this over all picture.

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Offtt, I think that's pretty personal, along the same lines as - tell me the essence of who you.

Given some of the replies on this thread that have suggested I am a male, and whilst I don't know the motivation of your question, I am reluctant to go into the nuances of who I am.

Broadly for me it's shaped by so many things likely informed / socialised by my heritage and culture (and the social norms around this), and where I am in my age and family planning (and the social norms around this)...

What about you?

"I don't care for people that dismiss or use hurtful language toward a group of already very marginalised + risk and vulnerable people because they think that by supporting their rights that this throw womens rights under a bus."

@Humtum

They already have 'rights' though don't they? The same 'rights' that any other man has? No one is taking their rights away. Where are they marginalised?

Transgender people exist & they will always exist. I can't imagine how awful it must be waking up every day wishing you had the correct genitalia. Imagine being a female who identified as 100% female but didn't grow breasts or have periods. This is nowhere near as traumatic although still as frustrating. A thought I have asked myself recently is would women who don't agree with sharing their personal spaces with transgender males feel differently if there was a law that stated only men who have had gender reassignment operations qualify to share female public toilets etc 🤔

"gender spectrum" 😂

Come on, you don't actually believe this sexist claptrap do you?

Offtt, I think that's pretty personal, along the same lines as - tell me the essence of who you.

Women aren't "essences". We are female. Males are boys or men.

Got bigger worries than worrying about the odd naked willy in a changing room or skirts and makeup being worn by both sexes.

Climate Crisis
War
Cost of Living
Knife Crime
Housing crisis
Femicide/DV
Rape
Maternal & infant mortality
Child poverty
Pay gap
Pregnancy discrimination
Brexit

We are on the Titanic and this issue seems like arguing over who gets the pink vs the blue deck chairs.

I can't imagine how awful it must be waking up every day wishing you had the correct genitalia.

I think this is a somewhat naive view of the majority of males who identify as women. Many of them are very happy with their genital arrangements.

So basically you can’t explain how one (a man) identifies as a woman.

Anyone else want to have a bash?

Excellent post

This!

The only thing that makes a person a woman is that they have a body that has been formed around the production of large gametes, whether that body ever produces a large gametes or not.

There is no other way for a human to be a 'woman'. Women come in all different experiences. There is no 'one way' to categorise a woman's experience outside of that shared experience of having that body formed for large gamete production.

Anything else is philosophical belief.