Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

These aren't Tara's these are hardened labour supporters openly displaying the behaviour they've been displaying for years, but now with more arrogance.

Most things can be undone, except climate change. Remember when we thought women's rights were here to stay?

They are both.

I never once thought they were here to stay, no rights are permanent.

Yes, in Elizabethan times men would dress as women on stage at the theatre because women weren't allowed to act. Just like now, those men in women's attire, were still men and like then, women still don't get a fucking say in it.

And on climate change, why vote green when they have displayed such a clear disdain for science and denial of reality?

1. Show me your data. (And I don’t fear all men anyway, so perhaps that’s another point where you and I will always differ)
2. I don’t understand why you’re asking me that question or how you might be expecting me to answer it? Confused.

Blair transformed the NHS from 1997.
Wales is a devolved parliament and absolutely horrendous.
They don’t take instruction from Westminster.

I think everyone on here berating gender critical feminists for being downcast about a Labour win should go onto Twitter and just post a statement saying no one can change sex. See if you still have a career afterwards. That's where we are now. You can't even make a statement of biological fact without losing everything you've worked for.

Okay, have it your way. But it isn't "gloom" or irrational "fear". I and others have critical thinking skills and can look at the long term implications of what has been happening here, and it's pretty serious, both for our democratic process, for the fundamental rights of women and gay rights. As I say, you clearly haven't been paying attention. Up to you.

I know. That was my point. Their NHS is run by Labour

Therefore no restriction of rights is permanent, and can be undone.

And I agree that those things are vitally important to be discussed in detail and in campaigns so that people know exactly how to get those changes in place.

Your derisive post though was there to shame female people discussing an issue that either you don't support or that you wish to use to shame others for not focusing on the issues that you, personally, deem to be of greater importance.

Another instance of that misogynistic term.

That’s different altogether to the general working of the general populace. I would expect each sporting event and club to have sensible rules, just as they already do for so many other things, and to consider unfair advantages (just as they do with drugs) as part of their own selection and qualifying processses. I expect that would rule out a lot of trans-men from women’s sports, and I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing.

But again, a bit different from thinking a trans-woman is going to assault you in the toilets at M&S, or that our daughters are going to be scared by perverts in the Topshop changing rooms.

I’d like to think that we could soon reach a point where nuance, rather than angry identity politics, and common sense might dictate how we penalise the people who quite clearly mean us harm, from the ones who quite clearly don’t, and who are often being harmed themselves.

But it’s going to take a lot of conversation and a lot less panic.

How exactly are males being harmed by using the male pissing facilities?

They're special feminists. They don't centre women, they centre their opposition to the trans movement. So unless the problems are caused by TW, they don't give a fuck.

Do you think that a male person who dresses at the 'feminine end of the spectrum' should be accessing female single sex spaces?

If Labour are able to sort out MH services and CAMHS then I believe the whole trans thing will be self limiting as I think a huge proportion of trans people may have other issues going on making them unhappy and feeling like a big change will help when it won’t

As I say, you clearly haven't been paying attention. Up to you

Ha.
Yes I have, I just disagree with your point of view.

Why would you rule out trans-men from female sports categories if they are not on testosterone treatment?

With a "trans inclusive" ban on "conversion therapy", as promised by Labour in their manifesto?

How many times do people have to tell you that there will be no point in any kind of feminism if women can't define themselves as a political class until you get it?

I would hope that Labour takes a good look at why the SNP has been decimated this election.

I didn’t say I would? Strange comment. I think we’re getting lost in the weeds a bit here!