Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

@StepUpSlowly

Re your question, if it's not been answered already, from your post in which you minimise the threat from trans people:
Trans people are 1% or so of the population. In that 1% how many of them are proven rapists? What’s the ratio vs men who completely identify as men?

Figures are from the latest census/MOJ. This quote is from Genspect:
UK census figures reveal that: 1 in every 585 transwomen in England and Wales are convicted sex offenders. That compares to 1 in every 2750 men and 1 in every 243,000 women. (We don't know how many people identified as trans in order to get into the women's prison)

You think it's just dandy that a person with a penis who is convicted for raping women is housed in a prison with women because he claims he is no longer a man.

You think it's ok that a person with a penis can access women's refuges where women have escaped to from domestic violence?

You think women are not in danger from these people with penis's?

You are actually ok with this?

Women have been fucking reported for saying men aren't women on Twitter. Instances of women finding police at their door because they said something a trans identified man didn't like. No one able to say they don't believe people can change sex without fear of losing their jobs.

WAKE UP. This issue is so much bigger than women not wanting penis showing up with their loos. Honestly, I am sick of the disingenuous arguments from people supporting this.

Correct, they can’t. But they can display themselves anywhere along the gender spectrum they so desire, wear whatever they like, do whatever they like with their own bodies. And someone displaying all of those characteristics most closely to the feminine end of the spectrum may well like to be treated the same as the rest of us at that feminine end of the spectrum.

It doesn’t mean they’re a rapist or a pervert.

Several rapists and perverts are indeed taking advantage of the greater awareness and support being talked about and enacted, but they’re not the same people.

there are also very many mentally unwell, mentally less able and neurodivergent people who seems to think that they are trans when they very probably have issues that need assessing and supporting first, and there are a large number of children whose normal level of sexual confusion and discomfort and need for attention gets funnelled into trans identity erroneously, but they’re not the same people either.

Dont throw the baby out with the bath water.

So rare that it is part of the curriculum in all schools in Scotland (SNP) and Wales (Labour)

But @TheAlchemistElixa what about sports?

However, describing women's concerns as a 'moral panic' is derisive and dismissive of what female prisoners experience and what they are reporting back to feminists who are campaigning

As someone with experience of working in women's prisons, I really wish I saw those feminists campaigning with the same energy to deal with the issues that affect many more women prisoners - notably violence levels from non-trans prisoners, drug-dealing, poor health care (particularly in gynaecology and obstetrics), totally inadequate resources for rehabilitation, excessive use of remand, disproportionate use of pointless short sentences, and basically awful living conditions.

I’ve not heard such hysterical bs in a long time. Labour are not going to suddenly put women at risk. My daughter is gay and has no issues with Labour either. The more substantial issues of health, education and crime are much more important and the Tories have allowed a decade of decay so I can’t wait for Labour to begin to rebuild again.

No but it's a good reason for being able to choose taxis with a female driver.

Oh, you poor, brain-washed soul.

For those who think Labour will save the NHS, you only need to glance at Wales to see how untrue that is:

And this is why we are now absolutely fucked. Welcome to the feminism board as it was in 2016.

24 hours, it took 24 hours....

I agree, this election hasn't been an endorsement of labour, or libs, it was about giving the torys a kicking. And now women will pay for it.

I fear you're right. We're just going to have to let that pendulum swing to its extreme, so that people can properly see what they have lost and start to reverse the damage.

@TheAlchemistElixa
And someone displaying all of those characteristics most closely to the feminine end of the spectrum may well like to be treated the same as the rest of us at that feminine end of the spectrum. It doesn’t mean they’re a rapist or a pervert

1. They at least as likely to be a rapist or a pervert as any other male
2. How should I be treating men and women differently?

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Nothing "hysterical" about it. You'll see, I'm afraid.

Haven't you realised yet, It can't be undone?

They haven't even gone through the doors of number 10 yet!
I for one am willing to give them a chance
There's more chance of change and hope for the NHS than there would have been if we'd have woken up to Rishi and the Tories still in and having their way.

So many TRA on here today with the age old script:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

I agree with everything about what's needed right now. I didn't vote Conservative.

But what I do find genuinely scary is that we should be having to make that choice.

It would be so easy for Labour to draw a line between people's right to be gender non conforming - a reasonable, in fact IMO a positive thing, and the ideological belief that something in a man's mind makes him mentally a women (or vice versa) - a nasty, regressive belief that belittles women's actual lives and denies us legal identity and political legitimacy.

And yet they didn't. Like you, they must surely know who the "real women" are, but they pretend they don't, and so we switch into a world where we accept in law that men and women have different minds rather than different bodies.

Labour selling out women isn't just about how this impacts women (which is bad enough), it's also about them demonstrating they are prepared to ignore reality and impose terribly unfair consequences on out groups. Today it's women, what next?

Women, try harder

Labour have been in charge of the NHS in Wales for years

there are also very many mentally unwell, mentally less able and neurodivergent people who seems to think that they are trans when they very probably have issues that need assessing and supporting first, and there are a large number of children whose normal level of sexual confusion and discomfort and need for attention gets funnelled into trans identity erroneously, but they’re not the same people either.

The Labour party's promised "trans inclusive" ban on "conversion therapy" will help with that, I'm sure.

You'll see I'm afraid

Just scaremongering as usual.
Trying to project your own fear and gloom onto others.

If labours policy to protect girls is to keep men in fetish gear out of women changing rooms and toilets, we really are in for a period of low safeguarding.