Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

If someone forces you to have sex with them, it's already illegal.

Edit: sorry, that was a bit rash. I am sorry that some lesbians are experiencing this, and it is definitely not right.

I voted Labour for the SEND kids, for the NHS, for education and because I can still protest about women's rights with Labour in government. Labour are not wedded to self id like the Lib Dems; Starmer certainly isn't. That's why he has been cagey. He knew that to come down clearly on this would alienate either the young and woke, or women.

You cannot work in SEND like I do and think that nothing else matters but sex and gender, or that the Tories warranted another term in office destroying so much about this country.

Yes it does worry me. I am astonished that so many stupid people have voted Labour at all, but particularly given that this issue has been brought to light in the media, and the Conservatives were beginning to push back against it. I realise it's not one of the major issues for many, but if you voted Labour thinking that things will magically improve, then you're going to be disappointed.

I was seriously worried about the very real threat to women's rights from the Tories in terms of equal pay and opportunity, maternity rights, child care, health, and child poverty. Frankly I think all the fuss about Labour and gender will prove to be a total damp squib and they won't prove the threat that you make it out to be, OP.

I didn’t say I don’t consider transwomen biological men. I do and always will.

There is a massive difference between a biological man who present as a man, embraces maleness in a way most males do (which is often patriarchal and oppressive, and looking at anything feminine and female as inferior and something to mock/ as “not for them”), and a biological man who embraces feminity, to the extent of likely going through massive surgeries to presents himself in a feminine way (to the extent of maybe looking more feminine than me), and that therefore might embrace a more positive view of women and feminity/feminism.

Yes, they are both biological men. No denying that. But I don’t consider them comparable. The same way my experience as a feminine lesbian is completely different to the experience of masculine lesbians. Both women. But two
completely different experience of the lesbian world and of our society in general and facing usually similar yet completely different issues.
(feminine lesbians being more sexualized, and masculine lesbians being more descriminated against for example). A bio male who present as male is usually heavily embraced by society, especially his peers, a bio man who choses to embrace his feminine side (not even to the extent trans women do) are often at the receiving end of death threats and physical assaults.

So yes, might have been born with the same genitals but I don’t consider them part of the same group, in that as a lesbian, I will never look at a gym bro with wanting eyes. With a transwoman, I could, I assume, at first sight be attracted since I am naturally attracted to feminine people. So I can definitely see that my brain could find them as attractive unless it was especially obvious they have a penis (which it definitely isn’t always, therefore my gaze upon them both will always be different which is different from denying they have the same genitals and were both born males.

No. If the global temperature soars, rendering swathes of land uninhabitable and the rest painfully difficult to live in, no one will be worrying about defining themselves.

The reason for speaking out against male inmates in women's prisons is because we expect prison authorities to work towards ensuring there is no sexual violence in prisons, and policies which demonstrably make this worse, in this case removing the most important safeguarding measure for inmate housing - segregation by sex - are of course going to be criticised on that basis.

Terrified? No, five year olds are not being taught about graphic sex, and children are not encouraged to take testosterone.
You have been influenced by media headlines - it isn't going to happen.

Yes women do care about this, and probably think the best way to address is campaigning aimed at a government which might have some idea about rights and how to balance them, rather than use issues for an attention grabbing culture war. As well as addressing other issues fundamental to the quality of women’s lives such as health and social care, quality of policing, criminal justice system, not to mention clean water etc etc etc

I don’t vote purely on one issue. I try to look at the bigger picture as it not every policy I want is reflected in one awesome political party sadly so just way up the pros and cons. I do worry about women’s rights but I also worry about the massive damage the Tories were doing so I picked my corner based on that.

It is very worrying for children. The malignant seed of an idea that people
might be born with bodies and minds that might not match, and that this means they should “change” themselves, has got in everywhere. The worst is that the ‘kind’ and ‘educated’ think not teaching this is “Section 28”, and that children are born trans.

I cannot get over Bridget Phillipson, who without even making reference to the Cass report - so seeming not to have read it - refusing to retain the proposed clause in the school guidelines to prevent teaching that children have ‘gender identities’ that might not match their sex /i.e. a part of their mind not matching their bodies.

You don't understand priorities, most likely because you have never truly had to prioritise. For quite a lot of people, "defining" yourself falls below feeding and housing yourself in their list of needs. That doesn't apply to you - lucky you! You can choose to prioritise based on things that aren't even on most peoples' radars. Big hand clap for you.
I'm not sure your critical thinking skills are as advanced as you seem to think they are.

I will absolutely be doing this. As soon as his government email address is set up I'm going to email about making the puberty blocker ban permanent.

No-one is forcing you to date anyone. Choose whomever you like, as long as they feel the same way.

It's not as simple as that if you're same-sex attracted and society is telling you that lesbians are same-gender attracted, though.

Lots of the people who call themselves lesbian are male-bodied nowadays, and so online dating (which used to be a lifeline for geographically isolated lesbians) is now impractical for many lesbians, not least as many transwomen don't identify as trans and don't put this in their profiles.

And female-only lesbian bars have all died out as LGBT culture has shifted to sexuality being based on gender rather than sex.

I have had women in heterosexual relationships openly tell me that lesbianism is bigoted and that the only inclusive sexuality is to be pansexual like them, because anything else merely reduces people to their body parts, which is not ok.

Eh?

If you think the labour government are going to solve that particular issue, you'll be disappointed. It's the Chinese government you need to be influencing.

We have J K Rowling. She was a massive Labour supporter and donor. From being reviled she is now revered. Labour are desperate to get her (and her donations) back on board.

Blair has come out and said women don’t have a penis (he’s also very Catholic) he knows what he thinks and he tells Starmer what he thinks.
Sport is now banning trans-women.
I think there will be a lot of noise but we are through the other side on the Trans issue. Globally not just in the UK.

They're not my precious Labour.

But I'm hoping they'll sort all the trans nonsense the Tories inflicted on us.

Just to be clear, this refers to a study which extrapolates from just 16 incidents against Trans households and which DID NOT find any them at higher risk than women.

I've been a hardcore labour supporter all my life and this is the first GE where I didn't vote for them. I couldn't bring myself to do it after their stance on Gaza and women, it's game over for me with labour. They've moved away so much from their original, core message & are solely about pandering to male fetishes.

What happened to Eddie Izzard/Suzie?

These are men who think that "woman" is a costume they can adorn, and that if they can mimic their male gaze perception of us then they are us.

That's not a positive view of women, it's creepy and objectifying.

If you think that defining yourself as a political class is a matter of privilege, you've not thought about it much.

It's you that have pushed vulnerable women under the bus - women who need single-sex spaces to escape domestic violence and sexual assault. Women and girls whose religion dictates they need single sex spaces. Disabled women who want female carers for their own dignity. Think a bit harder.

Seems that the critical thinking skills of the electorate are on par with those of the new cabinet.

Well of course - that's how an election works.

Dropping off my Grandson at school this morning, the amount of Mums saying they didn’t bother voting was quite astounding, it’s a very working class area.
My DD ( Teacher) was door knocked last night by the local Lab candidate, who is also mine, he was pushing hard to know how she’d voted, she ended up telling him it was none of his business and shut the door. He won his seat by 5k votes over the Tories, who took that seat last time for the 1st time ever.
I don’t know the % figures for turnout, does anyone have them?

I just hope Labour see the result for the SNP as a warning.

At least with Labour we would be allowed to protest, the Tories want to completely stop this from happening.