David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’

[Justme56]

https://metro.co.uk/2024/06/21/strictly-star-robin-windsor-honoured-posthumously-2024-british-lgbt-awards-21083694/

It really does produce the most shit tv and film.

It's interesting about the friendship thing. It's the same in DW. After years of there being very limited evidence of what Time Lord sex even really meant, the Doctor seems to be shagging around constantly since DT.

And also replying to @Binglebong : I've not watched season two for the same reason that I don't read the Asterix books from after René Goscinny's death, nor go to see Queen plus WhoeverIsSingingThisTime: these works were created by partnerships or teams and one person being gone from that team makes it not-the-same. GO season one was Gaiman fulfilling a promise to his co-author to adapt their joint creation. Everything after that isn't IMO GO, how can it be without Sir Pterry's input?

I can never have that kind of sex nor have that kind of inherently equal relationship with a man.

It is a really sad and strange thing to see women say this because, I know some gay men have great relationships, but all the gay men I've known have really struggled to find long lasting, exclusive partners. I don't think the gay dating scene is what some straight women and girls think it is.

In old DW, Time Lords don't even reproduce sexually, that's what the looms are for.

I would have thought that the LGBTQ+++ brigade would welcome the asexual representation of having a Doctor who was uninterested in sex?

There's a thread running right now in which women are passive-aggressively setting tests for their husbands who have engaged in protracted weaponised incompetence. Combine male entitlement with pregnancy risk and it seems impossible to have a fair straight relationship.

It's not like I can even get satisfying casual sex like a gay man can because lesbians don't operate like that and straight men are more likely to give me cystitis than an orgasm, assuming I can find a safe one who isn't going to choke me. Basically, dating and sex suck if you are female and even more so if you are autistic with it.

Yes, that's what I had always thought.

Are the writers so stupid that they don't understand that sex exists for reproduction? That it wouldn't have just developed for no reason?

Really I just think they lack the creativity and intelligence to write a series without using sex a s a writing crutch.

I agree, AO3 can be a blessing AND a curse. I started reading fanfic when it was only available on fan forums/old style fic archives/Webrings and LiveJournal so I thought AO3 was a great idea until it started going very weird in certain fandoms.

Reading about the idealised relationships in fanfic can be a bit tough at times, but it’s wish fulfilment (just like Mills and Boon can be) and so I don’t read fic when I’m in a bad mood because then it’s likely to exacerbate my grumpiness. Or, if I’m feeling disgruntled, I stick to genfic that concentrates on long complex plots.

I also think that, when it comes to relationships and sex in fic, the male characters in slash pairings wouldn’t be likely to be having the mind-blowing, multi-orgasmic impromptu sex in real life that a lot of these stories always include because that’s more like the sex female bodies have. So it reminds me to feel chuffed that female bodies are capable of great things that male bodies aren’t 😈

I got into fanfic as an adult so I absolutely agree with you that it’s definitely not a healthy thing for teenagers to get into because it can distort their views of adult relationships just as badly as video porn can. Plus, nowadays there’s a lot more activism and ideology involved in fanfic than there was in the past and kids can get sucked into that too before they’re mature enough to understand complex concepts.

Fan spaces can be a bit Lord of the Flies with kids creating their own online societies away from adult supervision (which definitely attracts weirdo men who look for kids to take advantage of). I wish media creators were more mindful of this aspect when trying to generate online buzz or when using social media or when actors are trying to raise their profile by adopting identities and causes.

I also think that, when it comes to relationships and sex in fic, the male characters in slash pairings wouldn’t be likely to be having the mind-blowing, multi-orgasmic impromptu sex in real life that a lot of these stories always include because that’s more like the sex female bodies have.

In my whole life, one partner has brought me to orgasm without needing electromechanical assistance, once: a one-night-stand over 20 years ago. Men tend to orgasm reliably with a partner and it was this ability to orgasm at all with a partner to which I was referring. It probably won't surprise you to know that I am not and never have been multiply-orgasmic.

He's actually at exactly the age to get his head turned by the adoration of young fans (obviously not all middle aged people are like that before I get accused of ageism). But it has a very cringe "middle aged man tries to be down with da kids" vibe to it. Like a guitar playing vicar at a teenage youth club.

Ha! True. I wish he would just stick to something harmless and cringey though.

Your allowed to disagree with someone politically personally etc you shouldn't be allowed to wish them out of existence when you have a huge platform like David Tennant radicals exist and MPs have been attacked and even killed

I cannot respect a man whose entire argument is on the level of a two year old covering their eyes and ears willing people to not exist

I'm fed up of the Scene. I want a long term relationship. It's a cult of youth and I'm beginning to tire of it all.

If I had a pound for every time I've heard one of the above from my gay male friends. It's not all honey , gay or straight.

I mean - the idea that men in general have easy access to the sex they'd like it very far from the truth.

Unless they are David Beckham or are willing to use prostitutes, they almost certainly don't. Some are lucky to find a partner at all.

It is easier for men if they are gay though. There's multiple saunas in my city for that very purpose.

For lesbian or bisexual-but-seek-women women, good luck!

I think that's a bit of a stereotype and perhaps should be avoided😬

It's not a stereotype to say there are multiple places, indoors and outside, in many cities where gay men have casual sex and that the same doesn't exist for lesbian women.

Granted perhaps not all gay men engage with this scene, but it exists.

Well I'm not getting into an argument, but the pp didn't actually say
" there are multiple places, indoors and outside, in many cities where gay men have casual sex and that the same doesn't exist for lesbian women."
It was just the sauna reference.
But whatever.

@MaidOfAle I’m listening to a podcast where there’s a discussion about fanfic and the text-based nature of the internet and the confusing effect it could have on the sexuality of women and the idea of fictosexuality. You might find it interesting:

https://overcast.fm/+_aa9-eDkw/19:22

Lots of stereotypes are statistically true, that's why they exist. It's statistically true that gay men have way more sex partners than straight men or women.

There is a ton of research around this, it's not controversial.

The "stereotype" is when we assume that general statistical truths about a group apply to every individual in a group. That assumption is a fallacy and won't always be accurate. And it's often unfair to individuals.

Its a weird diversion for the conversation to take. But usually for heterosexuals, in general, its much easier for a woman to persuade a man to have casual sex with her than it is for a man to persuade a woman. Not saying its always the case. But come on - usually it is. Likewise, its easier for a gay man to persuade other gay men to have casual sex with him than it is for a straight man to persuade a woman. That doesn't mean all gay men just want casual sex, or are having casual sex all the time. Or that some gay men aren't treated as less attractive than others/have a harder time finding casual partners. Finding long-term partners is a different matter.
But its not controversial or wrong to suggest that gay men on average have more casual sex/more sexual partners. Because they are both men.

See also the shock FTMs encounter when they come across the "real" gay male dating scene rather than the slash fantasy of what gay male relationships are like.

Yes, the slash fantasy and the real thing are very very different.

As an aside, DT really does give me the ick.

I shudder when I hear yon chirpy Scots fellas narrations & voiceovers.
I make a mental note not to favour or buy that product or brand.

I still think he's a good actor. Someone can be a very good actor and a tit in real life. Surely that's quite common? Actors usually have egos the size of planets or they couldn't do the job.

When he was in that fictionalised-reality drama during lockdown I found the personality he portayed and the relationship portrayed with his wife interesting but just a bit disturbing. Which he'd probably be quite happy with. And I was happy to watch as long as it stays on telly and doesn't affect me offstage.

Has anyone done a write-up on slash fantasy? I noticed a whole genre of teen "gay fiction" in a bookshop window which I suspect might appeal most to straight girls.