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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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Hyperions · 29/06/2024 09:26

I went to the hustings last Tuesday and the only candidate who said they were going to defend women's rights was the Tory, she was a councillor before standing for parliament and was also able to answer questions about the potholes and housing issues.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 29/06/2024 09:31

That's an impressive interview from Kemi Badenoch.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2024 09:41

there's a fairly frothy local independent candidate here who seems like a decent person. I might vote for him on the basis that it would be quite fun in a Mr Smith Goes to Washington kind of way if he did find himself in the HoC, and as Icake says, at this point I'm interested in tempering the Labour majority

SisterWendyBuckett · 29/06/2024 10:34

I’m sickened by this ignorant luvvie and others like him.

In 2017 my 20 year old daughter very suddenly announced she was non-binary. This was after a turbulent and traumatic episode in her life. She had recently come out as a lesbian but the non binary identity quickly took over.

We did our best to accept this sudden change, go along with her wishes and not question her choices.

Within 3 months she decided she was in fact trans - had always been a male but just ‘never had the words to explain this’ - and was sent by our GP to the adult gender identity clinic.

Her mental health deteriorated and her personality seemed to change overnight.

By the following year, having recently started on testosterone, she cut herself off from us. We were labelled transphobic bigots, refusing to accept her true identity, because we had tried to discuss the dangers of rushing too quickly into permanent medical changes. She accused her brother of wanting her to have conversion therapy because he was so worried about her state of mind that he dared to suggest she might try some counselling.

We haven’t seen her in 6 long years and have to accept we may never see or hear from her again. We found out several years ago that she has had a double mastectomy. The shock is still there…it’s not something you can get used to.

Estranging from parents is a feature, not a bug, for young people who pledge their allegiance to this movement. For parents like us this is a vicious ideology, dressed up as a sparkly, ‘be kind’, human rights movement, that can seize hold of vulnerable young people’s minds and convince them that up is down, that their body is the seat of all their ills, and that the way to become your true self is to rid yourself of your health and fertility.

David Tennant has absolutely no idea. He’s a heterosexual married man able to father multiple children, adorned in glitter and pink nail varnish, whose absence of thinking and desire to paint himself as ‘progressive’, blinds him to the multiple harms and rights conflicts that gender ideology creates and enacts.

He stands there clutching his ally’s award, eyes bulging and frothing with self-righteous anger, and pronounces that it would be a better world if women like Kemi Badenoch shut up and disappear. He wants women, who believe in sex based rights, protecting women’s single sex spaces and safeguarding children and young people, to go away.

I have never been a Tory voter, but if Kemi was my candidate, would I vote for her? 1000 X yes because in my constituency the incumbent Labour MP is a man who actively supports a male who parades his desire to ‘breastfeed’ in public. It’s beyond belief that an MP could stand up for and enable one of the most disturbing paraphilias around and this not be widely reported on.

He, David Tennant and so many others, continue to demonstrate just how far removed the left wing elite have become from material reality and necessary societal boundaries and safeguards.

So yes, David Tennant, I too have skin in the game and us “little whinging f*ers” refuse to go away because there’s far too much at stake to stay silent.

mrshoho · 29/06/2024 11:16

SisterWendyBuckett · 29/06/2024 10:34

I’m sickened by this ignorant luvvie and others like him.

In 2017 my 20 year old daughter very suddenly announced she was non-binary. This was after a turbulent and traumatic episode in her life. She had recently come out as a lesbian but the non binary identity quickly took over.

We did our best to accept this sudden change, go along with her wishes and not question her choices.

Within 3 months she decided she was in fact trans - had always been a male but just ‘never had the words to explain this’ - and was sent by our GP to the adult gender identity clinic.

Her mental health deteriorated and her personality seemed to change overnight.

By the following year, having recently started on testosterone, she cut herself off from us. We were labelled transphobic bigots, refusing to accept her true identity, because we had tried to discuss the dangers of rushing too quickly into permanent medical changes. She accused her brother of wanting her to have conversion therapy because he was so worried about her state of mind that he dared to suggest she might try some counselling.

We haven’t seen her in 6 long years and have to accept we may never see or hear from her again. We found out several years ago that she has had a double mastectomy. The shock is still there…it’s not something you can get used to.

Estranging from parents is a feature, not a bug, for young people who pledge their allegiance to this movement. For parents like us this is a vicious ideology, dressed up as a sparkly, ‘be kind’, human rights movement, that can seize hold of vulnerable young people’s minds and convince them that up is down, that their body is the seat of all their ills, and that the way to become your true self is to rid yourself of your health and fertility.

David Tennant has absolutely no idea. He’s a heterosexual married man able to father multiple children, adorned in glitter and pink nail varnish, whose absence of thinking and desire to paint himself as ‘progressive’, blinds him to the multiple harms and rights conflicts that gender ideology creates and enacts.

He stands there clutching his ally’s award, eyes bulging and frothing with self-righteous anger, and pronounces that it would be a better world if women like Kemi Badenoch shut up and disappear. He wants women, who believe in sex based rights, protecting women’s single sex spaces and safeguarding children and young people, to go away.

I have never been a Tory voter, but if Kemi was my candidate, would I vote for her? 1000 X yes because in my constituency the incumbent Labour MP is a man who actively supports a male who parades his desire to ‘breastfeed’ in public. It’s beyond belief that an MP could stand up for and enable one of the most disturbing paraphilias around and this not be widely reported on.

He, David Tennant and so many others, continue to demonstrate just how far removed the left wing elite have become from material reality and necessary societal boundaries and safeguards.

So yes, David Tennant, I too have skin in the game and us “little whinging f*ers” refuse to go away because there’s far too much at stake to stay silent.

Heart wrenching post @SisterWendyBuckett . Thank you for writing what must be so painful to go through as a parent.

UtilitarianNameChange · 29/06/2024 11:33

The sad fact is that even a glittery progressive parent with an ‘ally’ award is at risk of being cut off without notice as soon as the trans child is old enough to leave the family home.

Heterosexual parents, even affirming ones, are a consistent reminder of the material reality of biological sex.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/06/2024 11:36

NotBadConsidering · 29/06/2024 09:25

Well if the thread with the article by Helen Webberley GenderGP is anything to go by, it’s still perfectly possible to get puberty blockers one way or another, and I imagine Tennant could fly to any clinic.

Thank you for taking the time to answer.

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 11:47

@SisterWendyBuckett I am so sorry you and your family have been through this.

The outrageous thing - well, one of many - is that "transing" is the conversion therapy. It's telling homosexual people that they are in fact heterosexual, and that their bodies have to be corrected so their sexual orientation is acceptable. And it's a feature, not a bug, that that "therapy" happens to involve surgical butchery that can leave them without any sexual function, and hormonal interference that undermines their entire health.

Binglebong · 29/06/2024 12:04

I'm so so sorry SisterWendyBuckett. Flowers

RoyalCorgi · 29/06/2024 12:05

The most interesting thing about this is that Tennant clearly believes most people think like him. He no doubt thinks that calling sex-realists "whingeing fuckers" and telling Kemi Badenoch to shut up is not unlike being rude about Reform or Nigel Farage. I imagine he's been taken aback by the reaction. He probably spends so much time with others in the entertainment industry who think exactly the same as him that he has no idea that the vast majority of the population disagree with him.

UpThePankhurst · 29/06/2024 12:08

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 11:47

@SisterWendyBuckett I am so sorry you and your family have been through this.

The outrageous thing - well, one of many - is that "transing" is the conversion therapy. It's telling homosexual people that they are in fact heterosexual, and that their bodies have to be corrected so their sexual orientation is acceptable. And it's a feature, not a bug, that that "therapy" happens to involve surgical butchery that can leave them without any sexual function, and hormonal interference that undermines their entire health.

It also requires that those homosexual people who are female learn to tolerate unwanted straight sex in order to provide men who wish to identify as women with.... well. Basically unpaid sex work. Those not up for this are shamed, excluded and threatened, so it's 'do straight sex or else'.

That's conversion therapy. In full..

But that's apparently an okay form of conversion therapy because being done by the righteous, and she's a cow who won't see that bloke as a woman so she deserves it.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/06/2024 12:27

I think that DT is in for a shock. We now have three cases of nurses taking their NHS trusts to a tribunal for failing to provide single sex changing rooms for female staffs. This is bound to make more and more people aware of the problem.

Does DT want the nurses to disappear, I wonder?

I only became aware of the Fife case last night - so that's 2 in England, one in Scotland.

Link to a post made on Twitter/X by the local MP. x.com/JNHanvey/status/1806754711917515196

ArabellaScott · 29/06/2024 12:32

SisterWendyBuckett Flowers

PronounssheRa · 29/06/2024 12:34

Does DT want the nurses to disappear, I wonder?

It won't even be on his radar. He, his wife and children are privileged and wealthy they can buy themselves out of 90% of negative impacts

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 12:35

UpThePankhurst · 29/06/2024 12:08

It also requires that those homosexual people who are female learn to tolerate unwanted straight sex in order to provide men who wish to identify as women with.... well. Basically unpaid sex work. Those not up for this are shamed, excluded and threatened, so it's 'do straight sex or else'.

That's conversion therapy. In full..

But that's apparently an okay form of conversion therapy because being done by the righteous, and she's a cow who won't see that bloke as a woman so she deserves it.

Edited

Yes, it's the same sort of conversion therapy lesbians have been subjected to in many places and at many times, with the added twist of these particular heterosexual men's fetishes.

EdithStourton · 29/06/2024 12:35

💐@SisterWendyBuckett

I have a young trans relative. Her mother barely discusses it, and I know she finds it very hard to handle. Double mastectomy there, too.

GailBlancheViola · 29/06/2024 12:39

WearyAuldWumman · 29/06/2024 12:27

I think that DT is in for a shock. We now have three cases of nurses taking their NHS trusts to a tribunal for failing to provide single sex changing rooms for female staffs. This is bound to make more and more people aware of the problem.

Does DT want the nurses to disappear, I wonder?

I only became aware of the Fife case last night - so that's 2 in England, one in Scotland.

Link to a post made on Twitter/X by the local MP. x.com/JNHanvey/status/1806754711917515196

There you go, following on from what UpThePankhurst said - Women your bodies are ours and we get to dictate and control what you are allowed to do with them. You must service us with your bodies at all times whenever we demand and accede to whatever we want whether that be undressing in front of us, allowing us to examine you, counsel you after rape or sexual assault, provide intimate care or accepting us as sexual partners Progress, ladies, progress, what a Brave New World we are in.

And we the dissenters are the ones labelled toxic and fascist. Dystopia has truly arrived.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 12:43

Camilla Tominey in the Telegraph on the pride flag, the numbers are interesting, the last paragraph won't be new to most people on here

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/29/when-the-pride-flag-represents-everybody-it-represents-nobo/

https://archive.ph/2Zd0Q colourful jackboots are still jackboots

Greaterorlesser · 29/06/2024 13:12

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/06/2024 20:43

Ah Tbf dawn butler is responsible for one of the best MN threads of all time when she threatened to call the police on us 😆

Dawn can be comedy gold. Reciting the lyrics to ‘Something inside so Strong’. Time after time was remarkably cringe (Google it if you have never seen it)

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/06/2024 13:12

TheDoctorIsAGP · 28/06/2024 22:03

Makes me wonder if there's something more to this, perhaps an even more personal interest in trans issues than just how his child is identifying.

I have occasionally wondered this about Keir Starmer. Has he got a secret closet full of wigs and nice floral frocks? 😂

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 29/06/2024 13:17

I know this is all deadly serious but his "99% of women don't have a penis" always makes me laugh. It's so ridiculous but oddly specific.

CorruptedCauldron · 29/06/2024 13:20

I thought this was interesting in The Scotsman: ‘There’s nothing progressive about David Tennant’s intolerance of Kemi Badenoch’

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-theres-nothing-progressive-about-david-tennants-intolerance-of-kemi-badenoch-4682047#disqus-comment-section

CorruptedCauldron · 29/06/2024 13:32

Meanwhile the NME reports on JK Rowling saying Tennant is part of the Gender Taliban. They have made an embarrassing fail, linking in the singer Billy Bragg but it’s a case of mistaken identity! They’ll probably correct it soon. And of course they call JK anti-trans. 🙄

https://www.nme.com/news/film/jk-rowling-says-david-tennant-is-part-of-gender-taliban-after-actor-calls-trans-critics-little-whinging-fuckers-3769990

Littlewhingingfucker · 29/06/2024 13:36

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/06/2024 13:12

I have occasionally wondered this about Keir Starmer. Has he got a secret closet full of wigs and nice floral frocks? 😂

Has he got a secret closet full of wigs and nice floral frocks
Thanks for that image. Now I will never be able to look at his square wooden jaw without wondering what shade of lippy he prefers.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/06/2024 13:45

Littlewhingingfucker · 29/06/2024 13:36

Has he got a secret closet full of wigs and nice floral frocks
Thanks for that image. Now I will never be able to look at his square wooden jaw without wondering what shade of lippy he prefers.

Sorry.
(I see him in the Rimmel classic "Heather Shimmer" myself)