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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 28/06/2024 21:09

Oh shit.

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 28/06/2024 21:33

For the nightmares bank...

David Tennant - Wishes Kemi B would ‘shut up’
RedToothBrush · 28/06/2024 21:42

elgreco · 28/06/2024 18:06

Make it make sense

This is what I want.

I want, I want, I want.

Therefore this is what we should have.

Cos I say so.

(Entitlement)

lcakethereforeIam · 28/06/2024 21:42
Jodie Whittaker Thirteenth Doctor GIF by Doctor Who

#teamdalek

Sharptonguedwoman · 28/06/2024 21:44

mrstrickland · 26/06/2024 08:07

It's like a watching a pack of hyenas on this thread. Do any of you think for yourselves?

(have none of you ever told someone to shut up before.....?)

Of course but not publicly and with such lack of thought for the consequences. Also, I am not famous.

EdithStourton · 28/06/2024 21:45

DH just looked over my shoulder as I was scrolling my feed and said (he must have got it off the BBC) that Tennant had just told a politician to stop wittering on about something she knew nothing, what was the big deal.

He was swiftly enlightened as to the bigger picture, including the little issue that Kemi probably has a better understanding of women's rights than an actor.

He's quite a terf, is DH, but he needs to be added to the Sex Matters mailing list or something. Idiot boy.

Typo

TheDoctorIsAGP · 28/06/2024 22:03

Makes me wonder if there's something more to this, perhaps an even more personal interest in trans issues than just how his child is identifying.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/06/2024 22:07

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/06/2024 08:06

Fuck me he really is a massive cunt isn’t he

It’s quite disturbing how he’s so 1000 % on board with his child’s “trans” status. God forbid said child ever decided he was just like all the other children after all.

He doesn't have a lot to lose: supposedly the boy is merely non-binary, so there won't be any surgeries or puberty blockers.

EnfysPreseli · 28/06/2024 23:20

WearyAuldWumman · 28/06/2024 22:07

He doesn't have a lot to lose: supposedly the boy is merely non-binary, so there won't be any surgeries or puberty blockers.

So just the pseudo-scientific quasi-religious mind games then. And making him think he isn't a proper boy because he doesn't comply with arbitrary and oppressive stereotypes. And that everybody who doesn't fall into line or see things as they do doesn't have any real grounds for disagreeing, other than that they really hate him and people like him. And that if he doesn't get everything he wants, including experimental hormones (e.g. puberty blockers or micro-doses of oestrogen) and unquestioning support, he may not be mentally resilient enough to survive. And that if he isn't really non-binary and just an ordinary boy that he will cease to be special and deserving of attention.

I suppose it could be worse, but it's not just medical transition that is damaging.

Catsmere · 28/06/2024 23:45

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 28/06/2024 21:33

For the nightmares bank...

You've flattered him! 😄

NotBadConsidering · 28/06/2024 23:47

WearyAuldWumman · 28/06/2024 22:07

He doesn't have a lot to lose: supposedly the boy is merely non-binary, so there won't be any surgeries or puberty blockers.

This is not guaranteed.

Firstly, “non-binary” is often a step towards identifying as the opposite sex, particularly as puberty approaches and particularly with parents who enable the idea that puberty is somehow optional. This leads to the fear of upcoming male puberty determining for sure that the child will physically move towards one of the two sex binaries, and push the child towards wanting action to prevent that happening.

Second, gender clinicians have argued, in medical journal articles, that it is ethical to use puberty blockers to keep a child’s body in a “non binary” state forever (which in reality, is forever pre-pubertal). So it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that a practitioner somewhere would facilitate this.

I think the second option is less likely. The first option happens all the time. Gender clinicians say the non-binary status was “just part of the journey”.

MaidOfAle · 29/06/2024 00:22

lonelywater · 28/06/2024 18:10

Here you go-Tennant is a thick nasty cunt. Hope that helps.

My cunt is offended at being compared to David Tennant.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/06/2024 00:34

NotBadConsidering · 28/06/2024 23:47

This is not guaranteed.

Firstly, “non-binary” is often a step towards identifying as the opposite sex, particularly as puberty approaches and particularly with parents who enable the idea that puberty is somehow optional. This leads to the fear of upcoming male puberty determining for sure that the child will physically move towards one of the two sex binaries, and push the child towards wanting action to prevent that happening.

Second, gender clinicians have argued, in medical journal articles, that it is ethical to use puberty blockers to keep a child’s body in a “non binary” state forever (which in reality, is forever pre-pubertal). So it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that a practitioner somewhere would facilitate this.

I think the second option is less likely. The first option happens all the time. Gender clinicians say the non-binary status was “just part of the journey”.

You make very good points.

Are puberty blockers still being allowed in the UK? I thought they'd been suspended. Of course, they could move elsewhere.

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 00:52

Second, gender clinicians have argued, in medical journal articles, that it is ethical to use puberty blockers to keep a child’s body in a “non binary” state forever (which in reality, is forever pre-pubertal). So it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that a practitioner somewhere would facilitate this.

Which makes me ask, not for the first time, which group benefits from having permanently childlike, physically and cognitively undeveloped, but of-legal-age adults ...

lonelywater · 29/06/2024 01:12

MaidOfAle · 29/06/2024 00:22

My cunt is offended at being compared to David Tennant.

but it should not be, because, unlike Tennant, it is neither thick or nasty.

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 29/06/2024 02:50

Catsmere · 28/06/2024 23:45

You've flattered him! 😄

Well the features are from a glamour shot... And possibly the Darlek body too, how do you tell if a Darlek is trying to be sexy? (Sounds like the beginning of a corny joke, answers on the back of a postcard please)

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 06:31

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 29/06/2024 02:50

Well the features are from a glamour shot... And possibly the Darlek body too, how do you tell if a Darlek is trying to be sexy? (Sounds like the beginning of a corny joke, answers on the back of a postcard please)

😆😆😆

DworkinWasRight · 29/06/2024 06:48

Kemi answers back: Kemi Badenoch: ‘I do think David Tennant is a misogynist’

www.thetimes.com/article/37dd2171-fe8e-489e-a709-bab0a1636d31?shareToken=8e6ee57f48b6514edfb9c1a2cfb61e4b

DramaLlamaBangBang · 29/06/2024 07:10

This leads to the fear of upcoming male puberty determining for sure that the child will physically move towards one of the two sex binaries, and push the child towards wanting action to prevent that happening

Also thr Tennants child has been photographed and put online with long flowing blonde hair and an extravagant dress, and paraded around in a T Shurt that says ' let's get this straight-im not' That is not androgenous. That is firstly, with the 'not straight' comment sexualising a child, but a statement that he is a boy dressed as a woman. He could have either not been put online at all or just been a boy with long hair, as most boys in DS's school were at one stage.

LunaNorth · 29/06/2024 07:11

God KB totally nails it there.

I’m so fucking conflicted. I was reading that, thinking, I’m voting for this! Then I remembered, she’s a Conservative, and, well. Fucking look at everything else.

It’s a bit heartbreaking, actually. I just want to say to the trans people, ‘Look, for once, this is not about YOU.’

Sad
Littlewhingingfucker · 29/06/2024 08:01

NeilsExorcistMoonshine · 29/06/2024 02:50

Well the features are from a glamour shot... And possibly the Darlek body too, how do you tell if a Darlek is trying to be sexy? (Sounds like the beginning of a corny joke, answers on the back of a postcard please)

How do you tell if a dalek's horny?

"Ejaculate, ejaculate!We will ejaculate!

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 08:06

Littlewhingingfucker · 29/06/2024 08:01

How do you tell if a dalek's horny?

"Ejaculate, ejaculate!We will ejaculate!

🤣🤣🤣

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2024 09:06

LunaNorth · 29/06/2024 07:11

God KB totally nails it there.

I’m so fucking conflicted. I was reading that, thinking, I’m voting for this! Then I remembered, she’s a Conservative, and, well. Fucking look at everything else.

It’s a bit heartbreaking, actually. I just want to say to the trans people, ‘Look, for once, this is not about YOU.’

Sad

sigh

she comes across so well doesn't she. I can't vote conservative, I really can't. but they have a person of this calibre. it's very conflicting.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2024 09:13

I think I'm going to hold my nose and vote Tory. I won't know for sure until I'm in the booth. I might actually cry. It helps that we're marginal and, despite my best efforts 😁, will probably go blue to yellow. I think a Labour government is inevitable regardless. I don't hold out much hope but perhaps they can be mitigated. And there's still a few days, perhaps Starmer will stop waffling, say something unequivocal and sane and I'll be able to vote Labour.

What? Why yes, that is a straw I'm clutching.

NotBadConsidering · 29/06/2024 09:25

WearyAuldWumman · 29/06/2024 00:34

You make very good points.

Are puberty blockers still being allowed in the UK? I thought they'd been suspended. Of course, they could move elsewhere.

Well if the thread with the article by Helen Webberley GenderGP is anything to go by, it’s still perfectly possible to get puberty blockers one way or another, and I imagine Tennant could fly to any clinic.