Trans people; why is it our responsibility?

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Okay, so trans identifying folks say that they need access to women's spaces because they aren't safe in men's spaces. I get that, but it is a problem caused by men. Therefore the solution should be about men, not women. So why isn't the main focus on targeting these men, campaigning for harsher penalties for such hate crimes? Why instead are they expecting women to compensate them for male behavior, making ourselves feel less safe in the process?

I would love for a trans identifying person to answer that question.
Has anyone here ever asked a trans person this question and received an honest answer?

I'm not hardcore "terf" as I respect everyone's right to decide who and what they are. My problem with it is when it conflicts with other people's rights to safety and security. I would really like to them to tell us why the violent men who cause this problem are being let off the hook and women are the ones targeted with all this anti-terf hate.

I do believe everyone has the responsibility to make the world a better place if at all possible, Flo. I just don't aggressively demand they do it.
As females we are not raised to have that feeling of entitlement, and I'm actually thankful for that. It turns people into assholes. I don't want to be an asshole.

I am a terf. I'm very happy to be a terf. It's practically impossible not to be a terf these days.

I am gender non-conforming. I don't give a shit what name anyone uses, what they wear, who they have sex with (assuming mutual attraction and consent), what job they do or life they live.
I would campaign to support anyone experiencing discrimination on these characteristics.

But when it comes to areas in which sex matters, biology triumphs over 'feels' every time.

You are supposed to respect people’s preferred pronouns and gender identity. You can say trans or trans women/man or not make reference to their gender. You shouldn’t know someone is trans and purposefully misgender them which is the term for what is happening in the example.

So, this gender stuff.
Does one decide they are a woman, despite evidence to the contrary, and that's it, or does one waver between the two (? I'm not aware of any more sexes)
Would it be possible, say, to be 'Julie' all week, but Derek at the weekend in order to have a few pints with the lads?
Is it different to being a transvestite, where you fit it around your other commitments?
I haven't phrased that well, but I am aware that some men wander about a bit.

We are always the ones expected to sacrifice ourselves.
It's not that they can't see we have a legitimate concern. IMO, it's that they don't care.

Why is their belief system decreed so important? Christians can't force me to capitalise he when talking about their god so why do I have to adhere to genderism?

Ladyfeelz innit?

you implied, or said, it is against the law. It. Is. Not.

You also have the problem there of pedophiles getting to look at little girls undressed. There are inevitably going to be a small percentage of trans identifiers who are pedophiles, just the same as with non-trans identified males.

Please make a complaint in writing if you are unable to do this comfortably at your place of work! This is unacceptable. Also in writing is better than verbally as you are protected by anti discrimination law and should keep a paper trail.

If you feel that misgendering is bad, do you then also agree that calling someone cis unless they specifically state that they identify that way is wrong?

I try to be polite and not be deliberately rude to anyone but I don't have to support anyone else's delusion.
If you are male and want to present as your idea of female great. I will call you she out of politeness but that does not give you access to female single sex spaces because you are not female.

have you understood what the poster is talking about? at all.

Do some reading, fgs

That's an excellent point.
Women would never be granted such extraordinary privilege.

Well of course it’s a very small minority but something to consider. Remember females can be pedos too so this is an issue with any strangers getting naked around and seeing your LOs naked and it’s not unheard of for cameras to have been found in these places historically so if you want to be extra safe change in a cubicle with your LOs just in case.

Cameras have been found far more frequently since men started using women's spaces, funny that.

That is the sort of thing I mean by hardcore terf.

Many of us here weren't too bothered about trans people but became hardcore by their actions. When you keep finding out about all the times that transwomen have harmed women it's hard not to quite frankly

There's a lot of mansplaining going on in this thread.

Neither do I, actually. I was just saying I'm more lenient about it than the most extreme of terfs. For example, I will accept it if a person born male wants to consider herself female and will refer to her as such. I would also accept those who have had sex reassignment surgery and hormones in women's spaces.

I had much more respect for people like Boy George, Divine or Marilyn (showing my age there) who presented in a very 'feminine' way while being totally clear in their biological maleness.
Understanding that dress or sexuality does not affect sex seems to have been lost.

Nope.

Man or male, is a biological description, and in the example I gave of a MEDICAL setting, it is absolutely relevant.

And what is this "supposed" to?

Says who?

I don't do compelled speech, sorry.
I will refer to people using grammatically correct English.
Anyone telling me I "must" use certain words can fuck off.

I won't "not make reference to their gender" if I want to, or it is required for some reason. Like I say, I am not into compelled language, and what you are REALLY saying (AGAIN) is "be kind", aren't you?
Playing along with someone's delusion is not being kind.

I am okay with it, assuming has testosterone blockers to reduce sexually predatory tendencies.

Trans women don’t have more rights than trans men I think they are equal. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Of course trans women can use a "restroom" - THE MEN'S. NOT THE WOMEN'S.