Party of Women banned from Women’s Hustings by Bristol Women’s Voice

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Am posting this is good faith based on a facebook notification I've got.

Haven't had time to listen to video so not sure of the whole story.

But sounds a bit ... women ban women from women's hustings??!!

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It's nothing to do with KJK though.

Uriarau said while she was inspired by Keen’s “incredible work”, she was not affiliated with the British activist or Let Women Speak.
“We are not affiliated with KJK at all,” Uriarau wrote on X. “We operate independently and are a grassroots women’s group in [Victoria].
“Our event was not even on the anniversary of KJK’s event. We organise around our own private lives & the fulltime caring work we do for our own families.”

By making it clear she welcomes everyone including violent misogynistic far right thugs

She welcomes women, to speak. That’s it.

They are advocating for a mixed sex group. Should call themselves something like Bristol People's Rights. Or exclude men.

Yes, she actually doesn't welcome men as much as women. The lws events I've been to she's always said men can speak only after all the women who want to speak have spoken and as not all women who wanted to got to speak, the men didn't speak.

Very women focused, a true grass roots movement. Such a great atmosphere. Women of all types, just free to speak about their lives, nothing I've otherwise experienced is as women friendly.

The Neo-Nazis did not attend her meeting in Australia. They turned up for their own rally. Nothing to do with KJK. Free speech is for everyone, even those one abhors - even murderers like Hamas.

All welcome was so that no-one could say she excluded transwomen. She did not know the neo-Nazis were going to turn up so she cannot condemn them until they did. Be reasonable.
Women are responsible for what they do. Well, they have been making a lot of noise about transwomen in sport, in women's prizes, in women's spaces and this has caused a reaction from the trans lobby. So because their opponents make a fuss when women speak about their rights and their need for female only spaces it is their fault when people in balaclavas etc turn up and cause a semi-riot? Which means you are saying the women should stay at home and stfu. Like Hell they should.

"women ban TERFs from women's hustings"

There, fixed it for you.

What even is a hustings?

It's a Q and A type event with electoral candidates so the electors can get to see and hear from them.
A bit like a local version of Question Time.

Which means you are saying the women should stay at home and stfu. Like Hell they should.
Not sure how you got to that, but no I didn't say that and neither do I think it.

But you have come up with an amazing list of reasons to explain why KJK could be excluded from this husting.

Surely by deciding that the neo nazis turning up to a LWS event means that she is aligned with them, then she must also be aligned with TRA groups who turn up. True clown world

And the women just happen to all be gender critical and the topic just happens to always be trans people? Funny innit.

Graham Linehan speaks at some of them too, is he a woman as well?

One would almost think it's just anti-trans events (as the NZ media referred to them) but they are called "let women speak" to manipulate people into supporting them who aren't overly familiar with them.

Having watched a fair few of the videos from LWS events, the women talk about their experiences as women. They talk about why they want/ need women only spaces and why those spaces should not include men who call themselves women. So female survivors of childhood sexual abuse, women leaving abusive relationships, women requesting female only rape survivor groups, women requesting female only medical care, these women speak at these events, which tra's may interpret as being "anti trans" but are actually pro women.

@CassieMaddox

The Farage debanking did not turn out to be bollocks.

I disagree strongly with Farage on most things, but Coutts took its decision in part because he held views "at odds with our position as an inclusive organisation". He then could not get a bank account at most other banks.

Do you hold any views that are at odds with those of our banks?

Do you disagree with any part of the corporate inclusivity agenda?

Do you think it's right that if you took a public stand on those views, you might find yourself unbankable?

Graham Linehan speaks at some of them too, is he a woman as well?

Men get to speak after all the women who want to speak have done so, if there's time.

"So it isn't a hustings"
Yes it is. HTH

No it isn't. A hustings is where a group eg a community group, a women's group, a TU invites all candidates for a seat to an open meeting to give candidates a chance to speak directly to potential voters, and voters to get the chance to directly quesion candidates.

Based on my past experience the main candidates cant usually be bothered to turn up.

A meeting where the organisers decides (because after all women cant think for themselves) that potential women voters should only hear from candidates the organisers select is NOT a hustings.

It is a meeting with a political agenda.

Quote:

Hustings

A hustings is a meeting where election candidates or parties debate policies and answer questions from the audience. Hustings provide voters with an opportunity to hear the views of candidates or parties.

When all candidates or parties standing are invited, a hustings does not promote any particular candidate or party because they all have the opportunity to speak and be questioned.

Its sad really that so many women think they should decide for / direct other women what ideas they should hear, and so many women think this is okay.

The hustings is about women's economic inequalities.

What's the POW position on that out of interest?

I'm not able to answer that, but I can't answer that for the labour party either, as they believe that some men can be women

If the POW don't have a position on women's economic inequalities, they maybe this hustings isn't for them?

There are loads of other independent candidates that aren't invited to the hustings.

Link with timestamp of where she says that please.

You clearly dont understand what hustings are, and haven't bothered to read what I posted.

Even if it is economic inequalities, then all candidates saying they want to represent the area should be asked to respond to that question.

It is absolutely out of the question that the organisers decide who can talk about this issue.

Is it possible that there are posters on FWR who dont understand what open democracy is meant to be, let alone collude with the notion that any self appointed groups should say how can and who cant have a voice.

Hustings are NOT a platform for the organisers policies.

That would be a rally.

Honestly is it any wonder women are struggling to get involved in mainstream politics if they dont even understand the fundamentals, let alone revert back to the antiquated notion that there are a superior class of people, who are entitled to allow those not as superior to only have access to information that the superior class thinks they should have.

Based on the batshit ideas being posted here, and if they reflect the concepts of the organisers, I hope all women boycott such a grotesque parody of the political system.

It's like the video of all those swivel eyed followers of Nicola Sturgeon silently allowing a woman to be escorted out of a meeting because she questioned the basic premise on the meeting.

And apparently posters on FWR seem to think this subserviant position is suitable for the "ordinary" women of Bristol that some self elected elite has contrived.

Women know your place.

The Electoral Commission is clear that organisers of hustings don’t have to invite all candidates. The guidance is in this thread, including advice for charities. They are still hustings, however much you stamp your feet.

That's bad though, right?

Excluding a party from a hustings because of its lawful political views.

That's deeply sinister. Far worse than excluding them because of lack of space, etc. etc. that others have posited.

Unless you think that mainstream political consensus is infallible, and the purpose of elections is to confirm it.

Would you consider yourself a conformist?

It's more likely that they haven't been invited, or excluded if you'd prefer, for the same reason that none of the other independent candidates are invited. The organisers have chosen to invite the four main parties. Reform aren't included in the line up either.

Does the POW have a position on women's economic inequalities?