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KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:04

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 12:53

KJK isn't on the board.

Hasn't been for years.

Because she questioned a Labour MP.

That's not what happened - that was the final straw rather than a singular event. Here's MNHQ comment about it:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3377213-Please-MNHQ-overturn-Posie-Parkers-ban?reply=81347601&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Page 18 | Please MNHQ overturn Posie Parker's ban | Mumsnet

That's it really. Add a post if you agree.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3377213-Please-MNHQ-overturn-Posie-Parkers-ban?reply=81347601

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:09

ThreeWordHarpy · 02/06/2024 12:40

🤣

someone has already covered the economic aspects, but from a social perspective, left wing politics generally focus on the whole rather than the individual, and right wing on the individual rather than the whole.

So being concerned about the well being of a cohort of young people who are distressed about their sexed bodies as they negotiate puberty, or groups of women who need access to female single sex facilities (“The whole”) as opposed to the rights of certain adult male transitioners insisting on access to female single sex facilities (“individuals“), puts this board firmly on the left.

That's nearly as much of a reach as the posters on here recently claiming Hitler was a socialist 😂

This board on the whole is positive towards right wing politicians, media sources and politics, and negative towards the equivalent centre or left wing ones.

There are regular chats about "elites", and how MSM is "captured" which is a very populist, alt-right preoccupation.

Therefore my interpretation is the board is right wing. And part of the reason KJK is lionised is because she fits that populist, alt-right political view.

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:10

I think there are lots of posters here in that position and they would be better owning the fact they are now right wing than complaining about being "politically homeless".

Can you explain what you mean by right wing here @CassieMaddox?

A couple of posters have described what right and left wing mean to them in terms of economic and social issues. Do you disagree with these descriptions? In what respect do you see the views of people on here as 'right wing'?

What do you think is specifically right wing about arguing against unnecessary medical treatment which is funded by the NHS? What is right wing about focusing on the whole of society rather than the individualism which is an intrinsic part of transgender ideology?

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:13

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 12:58

And this makes zero sense. The Tories put rapists in womens prisons, not Labour. It's an incomprehensible approach to go "Labour aren't saying they will not do this thing I want stopped, so I'll vote Conservative because they are doing the thing I want stopped".

If some voters want to rebel against "the Elite" by voting Conservative knowing it will harm the UK because they "don't like being told what to do" then that's up to them. But in the same way I wouldn't reward my toddler for a tantrum, I'm not going to stand by and try to calm them down by agreeing its all the Lefts faul the meanies. The toddlers can burn out their tantrum and then reflect on the consequences and hopefully learn from it.

Just a reminder that Lisa Nandy said that a rapist should be put in a women's prison if that's what he wanted:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8012193/Labour-trans-rights-row-Lisa-Nandy-says-rapists-transition-sent-womens-prisons.html

Lisa Nandy says trans rapists should be allowed in women's prisons

At a campaign rally she was asked her views on whether violent sexual offenders who transition should be allowed to serve their sentence in a jail assigned to prisoners of their new gender.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8012193/Labour-trans-rights-row-Lisa-Nandy-says-rapists-transition-sent-womens-prisons.html

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:16

Labour still won't come up to scratch about exactly what they intend to do.

It's the Tories who are finally waking up. Especially post their Cass report.

But this will, of course, all come out in the wash in the next few weeks when both parties will be held to account over exactly what they intend to do.

KJK is not 'pro trump.'

The GRA should never been written, so repealing it is a fairly popular idea.

Plenty of people think there is no such thing as 'trans', as in an internal gender identity. And it would be really revealing to find out exactly what both the tories and labour mean when they say 'trans'. Because the tories have said you cannot teach that people have a gender identity in school.

And there's been endless discussion about exactly whether or not transitioning is abuse, with, I believe, the consensus generally being it depends what you mean by transitioning.

"Gosh. Calm down."

You left off 'Dear'.

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:18

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:09

That's nearly as much of a reach as the posters on here recently claiming Hitler was a socialist 😂

This board on the whole is positive towards right wing politicians, media sources and politics, and negative towards the equivalent centre or left wing ones.

There are regular chats about "elites", and how MSM is "captured" which is a very populist, alt-right preoccupation.

Therefore my interpretation is the board is right wing. And part of the reason KJK is lionised is because she fits that populist, alt-right political view.

So you admit you post regularly on what you think is a Right Wing board?

Which makes you right wing adjacent? Oh dear.

And yes, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

That's not a claim. That is an actual thing.

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:18

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:13

Just a reminder that Lisa Nandy said that a rapist should be put in a women's prison if that's what he wanted:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8012193/Labour-trans-rights-row-Lisa-Nandy-says-rapists-transition-sent-womens-prisons.html

In 2020. When the Conservatives were in power and actually putting rapists in womens prisons.

Also Lisa Nandy is a backbench MP. Many Conservatives have said TWAW statements.

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:19

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:09

That's nearly as much of a reach as the posters on here recently claiming Hitler was a socialist 😂

This board on the whole is positive towards right wing politicians, media sources and politics, and negative towards the equivalent centre or left wing ones.

There are regular chats about "elites", and how MSM is "captured" which is a very populist, alt-right preoccupation.

Therefore my interpretation is the board is right wing. And part of the reason KJK is lionised is because she fits that populist, alt-right political view.

Where does Rosie Duffield fit into this in your view? And Joanna Cherry?

What about Penny Mordaunt and Caroline Nokes?

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:20

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:18

In 2020. When the Conservatives were in power and actually putting rapists in womens prisons.

Also Lisa Nandy is a backbench MP. Many Conservatives have said TWAW statements.

So she agreed with Conservative policy?

How very Labour!

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:21

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:18

So you admit you post regularly on what you think is a Right Wing board?

Which makes you right wing adjacent? Oh dear.

And yes, Hitler was the head of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

That's not a claim. That is an actual thing.

😂yes. Lots of left wing women post here, or at least try to if we can get past the regular anti-Left hostility.

The Nazis were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a democracy. 😂

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:22

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:19

Where does Rosie Duffield fit into this in your view? And Joanna Cherry?

What about Penny Mordaunt and Caroline Nokes?

Nowhere. Because I'm talking about this board on mumsnet rather than politics. What a strange question.

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:24

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:22

Nowhere. Because I'm talking about this board on mumsnet rather than politics. What a strange question.

And that's exactly the kind of answer you get from labour!

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:26

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:04

That's not what happened - that was the final straw rather than a singular event. Here's MNHQ comment about it:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3377213-Please-MNHQ-overturn-Posie-Parkers-ban?reply=81347601&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

That thread doesn't discredit KJK in the way you're hoping it does!

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:28

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:21

😂yes. Lots of left wing women post here, or at least try to if we can get past the regular anti-Left hostility.

The Nazis were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a democracy. 😂

Edited

Yes, that is the point of the comparison to the current Labour Party.

Well done. Got there in the end.

Not everyone who says they are running a left wing party is in any way 'left wing'. Hence so many women being 'politically homeless'.

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:29

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:21

😂yes. Lots of left wing women post here, or at least try to if we can get past the regular anti-Left hostility.

The Nazis were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a democracy. 😂

Edited

Eugenics has a history of being popular amongst left-wingers, so I suppose sterilising autistic children and those who might grow up to be gay fits right in with a socialist perspective.

So this part of transgender ideology could be considered a left wing movement.

It's become enmeshed with the extreme individualism of middle aged male transitioners though, which is more of a right wing thing with the individual taking precedence over what is best for wider society.

OldCrone · 02/06/2024 13:31

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:22

Nowhere. Because I'm talking about this board on mumsnet rather than politics. What a strange question.

I was replying to your post which said:

This board on the whole is positive towards right wing politicians, media sources and politics, and negative towards the equivalent centre or left wing ones.

We are generally positive about things that people like Rosie Duffield (Labour) and Joanna Cherry (SNP) have said and negative about Caroline Nokes (Tory) and Penny Mordaunt (Tory). Why is it a strange question?

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:35

Lots of left wing women post here, or at least try to if we can get past the regular anti-Left hostility.

Try to? I don't see some of the more prolific posters struggling to post.

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:37

I'm positive about MPs that don't want to sterilise kids and who haven't taken money from Pharmaceutical companies, who don't go on jollies paid for by rich men with TRA agendas and whose brothers aren't mates with TRAs and use the political system to further their brother's mates agendas. To be honest.

The first MP to give a voice to the women calling out the sterilisation of kids was a Tory. And the first people to arrange a meeting with him, was Venice Allen and Posie Parker.

Whoever they are. No marks.

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:39

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:26

That thread doesn't discredit KJK in the way you're hoping it does!

Bloody hell she's even got people trawling old threads to try and discredit her.

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:40

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:39

Bloody hell she's even got people trawling old threads to try and discredit her.

And scoring an own goal in the process! 😬🤣

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:41

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:39

Bloody hell she's even got people trawling old threads to try and discredit her.

Her milkshake still brings all the boys to the yard!

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:43

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:40

And scoring an own goal in the process! 😬🤣

I'll go and have a look

Datun · 02/06/2024 13:46

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 13:04

That's not what happened - that was the final straw rather than a singular event. Here's MNHQ comment about it:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3377213-Please-MNHQ-overturn-Posie-Parkers-ban?reply=81347601&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

When you cast about to try and discredit KJK, might I suggest you actually read what you post?

That is about the most pro Posie thread you could ever see. Even HQ acknowledge the strength of feeling on it.

And soo many old names. All of whom have been proven right in the last few years.

EasternStandard · 02/06/2024 13:54

AlisonDonut · 02/06/2024 13:41

Her milkshake still brings all the boys to the yard!

Next level attention

It’s amazing

CassieMaddox · 02/06/2024 14:39

NoWordForFluffy · 02/06/2024 13:26

That thread doesn't discredit KJK in the way you're hoping it does!

I'm not hoping it "discredits KJK". It's for lurkers who might not know what happened.

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