KJK supports Trump

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After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

No matter how many times he's called a felon, his faithful won't care. People who didn't see that coming weren't paying attention.

It’s interesting to watch. Especially when it comes to donations flooding in.

I don’t know who will win but all this seems to be aiding Trump so far

Yet he is part of the legislature, so what has he done?

The argument is it strengthens support among his base but weakens it among floating voters. You could argue there's a parallel with KJK. Anything negative brings out the 'oh I'm going to donate again' posts, but it possibly puts off the undecided.

So what does she think a GRC should do?

Yet he is part of the legislature, so what has he done?

The president of the United States is NOT part of the legislature. Three bodies of US government, none above the other:

Executive
Legislative
Judicial

I think the UK based women shrugging and saying “Trump, so what?” or asserting that Biden is worse for women’s rights should thank their lucky stars that for them it’s all academic anyway.
Trump is crowing about his part in overturning Roe v Wade. In many states female children are now prevented from aborting the pregnancy of the man who raped them. Trump is proud of this. Possibly because it provides nice clean babies for rich people to adopt?
I think the both candidates are woeful for women’s rights but let’s not pretend that supporting Trump is no big deal.
I was interested in what KJK was doing in the past and admired her, but I think she’s a professional disrupter (which has its place but she’s probably more on the lunatic fringe now.)
Im getting fed up with the unconditional fangirling on here about KJK. It’s nothing to do with purity or party politics ( I’ve worked with Tory councillors I rated highly) it’s that I’m not into these cults of personality. I think they are dangerous and frankly childish.

Thank you so much. I agree with that assessment of KJK and think it's quite accurate to how I'd describe her.

Honestly, it's really disheartening to have some UK women act like they know better than American women do about our own problems. Like @Sloejelly who can't even get basic facts about our government or Biden's disability correct.

Trump may say he knows a p*ssy is something only a woman has, but he is directly responsible for packing the courts (upper and supreme) with pro-life judges who are ruling against abortions for women, including for 12 year old girls who have been raped by their male relatives.

Maternal mortality for women is far worse for women in red states...there are direct correlations with lack of affordable health care that's been gutted by Republican policies and women dying in childbirth in the US. It's not just Title IX and women's prisons we are fighting against. So many issues. It's not black and white.

Of course Biden's support of gender identity in law is a major problem for US women, and I don't criticize leftist women who've decided they can't in good faith vote for him, but that should never mean holding up Trump as a defender of women's rights.

That resonates well with UK politics too. A right wing government who have presided over increasing levels of poverty particularly in women, increasing numbers of women of the "sandwich generation" unable to work due to lack of affordable care for children/elderly/ disabled relatives, increasing maternal mortality rates especially in black women, the effective decriminalisation of rape, early release of domestic abusers because prisons are full. Yet we are meant to vote for them because "at least they know what a woman is".
It makes no sense to me whatsoever that any woman would see "the Left" as a bigger threat.

It makes no sense to me whatsoever that any woman would see "the Left" as a bigger threat.

Well, whether it makes sense to you or not, fortunately, mumsnet is going to be holding their feet to the fire.

First ever Mumsnet ‘manifesto’ urges next government to define what a woman is in Equality Act

Justine Roberts, Mumsnet’s founder and chief executive, said “women are disproportionately represented amongst undecided voters” and “this is where the election will be won and lost”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/01/mumsnet-manifesto-woman-gender-equality-act-election/

That's nothing to do with left v right datun. At the moment no party except Labour has a policy to protect spaces for biological women only.

Well now they've got the mumsnet manifesto, which couldn't be clearer, so we can all see what they say.

That doesn’t make sense. Labour haven’t specified which spaces

There’s nothing to back up their statement until they specify where and how.

For once delightful comments BTL

Given we’re on a KJK thread PoW should have had a mention here

These threads are characterised by 'but what did she actually mean by that specific word?' Or, yeah but it's obviously interpreted this way, or that way. Or, she said this, but clearly what she reeely means is that.

With lots of posters saying well why don't you just fucking ask her?

Which is what I love about that manifesto.

Mumsnetters are not in the least bit clear about what the next government intends to do. So Justine has just gone and fucking asked them.

@AstonScrapingsNameChange

These are all reasonable starting points for a discussion but your unwillingness to say what you think the issue with her (alleged) Trump support is, combined with your attack on anyone who doesn't immediately agree its a problem or who asks you to elaborate isn't going to lead to an informative discussion.

So, now instead of writing a completely neutral OP, I should have incorporated my opinion? Honestly. Sort it out.

I didn't want to bias the replies. If I had written it as you're suggesting, that's immediate bias. I didn't attack anyone, either. Back and forth discussion isn't an attack. (And I will say other posters clearly attacked me.)

Very clear to me from the first OP and all their replies to posts what their opinion of KJK is. Anyway glad you got what you wanted from this thread OP.

Sort what out?

I was suggesting that instead of suggesting via subtext, then complaining to anyone that doesn't miraculously guess correctly what you meant, you spell out what you're actually trying to say.

Which appears to be that KJK has done a bad thing and we should all be worried (still waiting for your evidence of the Trump support btw).

Own your opinion, rather than just keep popping up to say 'yeah that's not what I meant' while declining to explain what you did mean.

Refusing to do that is what makes you come across as disingenuous and spoiling for a fight.

You have biased the responses precisely because everyone has interpreted your woolly op differently.

OP, don’t be disheartened by all the aggression and harassment. I’m glad you posted. I only made one post, back on page 1. I received a lot of ‘thanks’ and messages from usernames who haven’t all posted on here. I imagine there are many others who would contribute, but don’t have time for the hassle.

@AstonScrapingsNameChange

Own your opinion, rather than just keep popping up to say 'yeah that's not what I meant' while declining to explain what you did mean.

I've had a look back through my posts, and do you know what? There's not one "that's not what I meant" or anything like it.

You have biased the responses precisely because everyone has interpreted your woolly op differently.

That's precisely what I intended. Everyone does have a personal bias, and that's what I wanted to bring out without first prejudicing it with my own.

Thank you for that. It can be difficult to look past some of the hostility, but not everyone is like that, and there have been so many constructive replies (both negative and positive). I use the app so don't see the 'thanks'.

The thing I don’t get is pp say they want single sex spaces but all energy is spent on diminishing the efforts to get there

What efforts are being diminished?