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KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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thatsthewayitis · 31/05/2024 20:49

How dare that outspoken confident woman KJK have strong opinions and then to actually do something about it!

Honestly I wish she'd start a school to teach young girls how to be fearless leaders! I have so much respect for her

NoWordForFluffy · 31/05/2024 21:08

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 20:05

Why did NefertitiV bring up people’s ’private parts’?

Now, that's the only TRA tactic I've seen on this thread so far, come to think of it!

Datun · 31/05/2024 21:39

BezMills · 31/05/2024 20:39

It's just another day on the FWR "scold the wims" farm.

Totally.

We've had people start these threads about KJK who freely admit it's because she gave them a tongue lashing.

For other people, it's been ... let's see, her nails, her education, her merch, her house, her hair, her husband, her housewife status.

We've even had one about her fictitious grandparents paying for her fictitious boarding school.

Now we've got all these people who also don't believe in transitioning children, arguing for hundreds of posts about the exact meaning of transitioning when KJK says it.

Because if it's A) it's wrong. If it's B) it might be wrong. If it's C) it might be right. But who knows, because when she says it, it could have any number of meanings, which makes her still wrong!

And this is why what she does, works.

Pages and pages and pages of people talking about what she's talking about.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 21:57

BezMills · 31/05/2024 20:39

It's just another day on the FWR "scold the wims" farm.

What is this "scold the wims" nonsense?
Scold is a misogynistic term and noone on this thread is doing any scolding (apart from pp getting offended by American posters, possibly).
And why does women need abbreviating to some sort of cliquey in-group name? It sounds like wince. Or whimsy. Really odd.

MyOleMan · 31/05/2024 22:04

I hate that word scold

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2024 22:13

What TRA tactics would these be?

Any response to this?

LexieMadison · 31/05/2024 22:15

Probably not as much as people hate being scolded!

There are two meanings, one to 'rebuke' and one to 'nag'. So it's not misogynistic to use the former meaning (which is the meaning I use when I use it, as in being told off).

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 23:03

It's used on this board much more than I hear it in real life. And the context is similar to the original meaning of a woman as "a scold", resulting in the scolds bridle as a punishment.
E.g.
A scold was defined as a type of public nuisance – a troublesome and angry person who broke the public peace by habitually chastising, arguing and quarrelling with their neighbours, or with a male authority figure. Women were most likely to be defined as scolds

https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/hold-yer-tongue#:~:text=A%20scold%20was%20defined%20as,to%20be%20defined%20as%20scolds.

I find it misogynistic and am surprised its used so much in here.

Datun · 01/06/2024 00:06

Haha!

Someone says the wims are getting scolded, and what happens? The wims get scolded for using the words wims and scolded.

😄

Elaan · 01/06/2024 00:10

I know it's hilarious, double scolded by a scold!!

NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:13

Abeona · 31/05/2024 13:36

I'm beginning to wonder, OP, whether KJK is doing this purposely so that you will come along with your purity spiral shite and hundreds of women will post to tell you that they don't care because KJK is right on the one thing that matters to them. As POW's intention is to disrupt and offer the opportunity to speak at hustings and no one expects it to win a seat, what KJK thinks on other subjects is irrelevant.

Thank you, though, for publicising POW. Sterling work. Your dark money cheque from a shady right-wing evangelical church is in the post.

It's interesting you bring up "purity spiral shite" as I've been repeatedly questioned about my credentials on this thread. Do I believe men can be women? Can I be clearer than that? Do I think men belong in women's spaces? Etc. etc. If that isn't a purity spiral, I don't know what is.

Even if I was receiving a cheque from somewhere for this, it wouldn't be a shady right-wing evangelical church (strange choice).

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:16

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 14:26

Man found guilty of mis-recording some payments in his admin, woman has previously liked a tweet (or something) talking about the man, OP comes on to tell everyone that everything you believe (or disagree with) about gender ideology is wrong because of this.

Where does all this simplistic thinking come from?

I'm not sure how you got that out the OP.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:23

@Brooks11

I now find it embarrassing. The twisting and distancing and whataboutery on this thread is reminiscent of TRA tactics. A lot of you (not all of course) are coming off as really unable to apply any critical thinking.

Again, don't bother telling me I am trying to silence women or am a secret man.

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

Thank you - these are my thoughts exactly.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:25

@NoWordForFluffy

Retweets aren't statements.

HTH.

Yes, they absolutely are. Otherwise why bother doing it?

HTH.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:31

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 15:54

Following the verdict since last night the Trump campaign has apparently received 34 million dollars in donations. The is double the previous record of daily donations received. Perhaps as here people are fed up with the righteous left telling people the right way to think.

Trump is a billionaire. Why does he require donations? I've seen tweets from people saying, "I'm poor, so I could only donate $20. But I'll save up for next time." If that's true - then Trump is swindling.

But that isn't what the thread is about.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:37

@MalagaNights

We all know however that it's really because she's right wing she's unacceptable, and not really about the fact that Trump is worse for women than Biden.

How about both? Right-wing and a Trump apologist? The conservative movement in the US that she appears to be allying herself with is terrible for women.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:48

Delphinium20 · 31/05/2024 18:02

She DID tell us American women, when she went to visit with Kara Dansky in DC, that we were crazy not to vote for Trump. If you want, you can search my MN history where I vehemently disagreed with her assessment of our political landscape and resented her admonishing us over our votes. I feel the same way today on this issue and yes, fuck that Trump noise. There are many things to like about KJK but her Trump apologia is obnoxious af. I'm a woman expressing my opinion on another woman's US political opinions and fully knew I'd get backlash on MN for it. But you'll notice I don't go guns blazing in in your UK politics.

Thank you for your perspective.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:51

@mrshoho

Roughly when was it that you last used to love this board? 🤔 Accusing the main posters of TRA tactics is a rather odd view?

I've been accused of being a TRA/MRA so many times simply for having a somewhat different perspective from the hive. (And it is a hive - sorry.)

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 02:54

@MalagaNights

The point of the thread is whether that requires all other GC feminists to denounce her.

Or whether they can accept she has different views on Trump than them and still agree with her on other things.

Did you write the OP? No. I haven't asked anyone to denounce KJK. I as interested in opinions only. What people do with the information gleaned from the thread is their own business.

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 03:03

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 20:05

Why did NefertitiV bring up people’s ’private parts’?

If you need extra assistance, here is the post I was replying to for context, and my reply. I'm not sure what you're attempting to imply.

It’s not ‘derailing’ it’s clear some spend an unusual amount of time focusing on KJK and her non compliance to all they want

Others on this board spend an unusual amount of time thinking and talking about other people's private parts and their non-compliance to all they want, too. I don't tell them to stop that, do I?

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NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 03:03

MalagaNights · 31/05/2024 20:06

Can we stop the policing of who is able to talk about whose politics.
It's incredibly stupid.

Anyone is free to an opinion on anything.

Thank you!

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NotBadConsidering · 01/06/2024 03:12

It is not clear at all what the thread is supposed to be about. What have to got out of it OP?

You don’t like something KJK has done. Some posters have pointed out they agree with her on some things and not others. Some posters are fed up with constant purity spiralling. Some posters have condemned KJK. So, what was the point of the thread and what have you learned? That there’s a variety of different opinions on things across a spectrum of politics and strategy?

What was your OP actually about then?

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 01/06/2024 03:48

I don’t read the re-tweets as support for Trump, more that KJK believes the trail was propaganda.

https://nitter.poast.org/ThePosieParker/status/1796459329438298623#m
I believe in democracy over a democratic decision I agree with, I believe in justice and the rule of law above the glee I might feel when someone I dislike is punished.

https://nitter.poast.org/ThePosieParker/status/1796527027807273454#m
Defending trump and being fearful of politicians using lawfare are two separate things.

I’ve also attached what I think are some of the ‘offending’ re-tweets as they’re not in the OP , and I’ve not seen them in the thread (but I may have missed them).

KJK supports Trump
NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 04:39

NotBadConsidering · 01/06/2024 03:12

It is not clear at all what the thread is supposed to be about. What have to got out of it OP?

You don’t like something KJK has done. Some posters have pointed out they agree with her on some things and not others. Some posters are fed up with constant purity spiralling. Some posters have condemned KJK. So, what was the point of the thread and what have you learned? That there’s a variety of different opinions on things across a spectrum of politics and strategy?

What was your OP actually about then?

Re-read the OP. It isn't that difficult. As I said in another reply, I'm interested in sociology, feminism and politics and how they intersect, so I've found the replies to be quite interesting and I thank everyone who has taken the time to write constructive posts. I expected there would be a variety of opinions; that didn't surprise me at all.

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NotBadConsidering · 01/06/2024 04:51

NefertitiV · 01/06/2024 04:39

Re-read the OP. It isn't that difficult. As I said in another reply, I'm interested in sociology, feminism and politics and how they intersect, so I've found the replies to be quite interesting and I thank everyone who has taken the time to write constructive posts. I expected there would be a variety of opinions; that didn't surprise me at all.

I read the OP. You assigned negative value to her actions by asking if this concerns people. You didn’t take a neutral, exploratory open question view, you took a position.

I know it’s not difficult. What’s difficult to know is what you got out of it? How do you think sociology, feminism and politics intersect from this thread?

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