KJK supports Trump

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After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

I don’t think I ever heard anyone say “I am non-binary because I believe in the faith of non-binary-ness” or whatever. They say “I am non-binary because I am neither male or female” or something which suggests there is a ‘realness’ to their definition.

It's more like lots of people saying they are Christian because they believe in God and me saying there is no such thing as Christians because I don't.

A more apt analogy would be more like someone saying “I am a child of God” and then someone else saying “there’s no such thing as children of God, I don’t believe in God - so I will refer to you as a follower of your faith, thank you very much.”

Christians often refer to each other as brothers/sisters in Christ.
Or they will say I hope I don’t go to hell or my mum is in heaven.

They say their beliefs as fact. Religion is one sort of ideology. Human rights is an ideology too.

I'm not judging the parents, because I think many parents (particularly of teenage girls swept up by this cult) are in a very difficult situation.

In the example you gave, I would not assume that the man had transitioned his child, and might be like one of the parents on here who has written about how difficult this situation is, so I wouldn't consider him abusive. If, however, it turns out that he's a Susie Green type, yes, that's abuse. Do you understand now?

The people who are to blame are all the people in positions of authority who have promoted this. MPs and other politicians, the BBC and other media, teachers, doctors and social workers.

This is an abusive ideology whose victims are vulnerable children. All those who have promoted it have been part of this abuse. The other victims are the parents, the primary carers of those children who have to deal with this all day every day and will still be dealing with it when the politicians have moved on, wringing their hands and saying 'lessons have been learnt'.

All transition of children is abuse.

Yes, but when they refer to themselves as Christians, that name/label in and of itself does not imply “a person whose loved ones are in Heaven”, it is a label for people who follow the Christian faith.

How many times can we say this? Wilful misunderstanding going on here.

Noone thinks you can "change sex". People talk about gender, not sex when they talk about trans issues.

This is what the politicians want us to believe, while giving adult birth certificates and passports with the incorrect sex on them.

Polticans want us to pretend that sex and gender are different while they place men in womens hospital wards and prisons.

They want us to believe that gender is self expression - its personal, different for everyone and its no one else business. Yet its a medical issue that needs public funded treatment, and needs official government issued id to be falsified?

Its confusing. There's not a politician alive who had managed to explain it all and sound sane.

Yet we are expecting children to understand the complexities?

That gender and sex are completely different, we just, coincidentally use the same words for each, and use gender and sex interchangeably? That if a girl doesn't want to be a girl, we'll give her a boys name and look at taking her to a clinic, get every other child to join in with the new identity.

Are we sure that the girl understands that she is still a girl, and will always be female? Do all of the other child she associates with understand this too?

There seem to be people on this thread who struggle to understand the relationship between the meaning of words and reality they are supposed to describe.

I would not assume that the man had transitioned his child, and might be like one of the parents on here who has written about how difficult this situation is, so I wouldn't consider him abusive. If, however, it turns out that he's a Susie Green type, yes, that's abuse. Do you understand now?

Which takes us back to why some of us have issues with the sweeping statement "transitioning children is abuse" with no clear indication of what is meant by 'transitioning' in that sentence.

Yes exactly this

You can’t pretend your main concern is the safety of women and children and then support the most misogynistic man in power of recent times. Exposes the whole thing as a farce.
I fully support KJK’s stance on men can’t be women, but I’m not deluded enough to think she’s still a fab figurehead for a GC movement.

I've never heard a Christian say "I'm a Christian because I believe in the faith of Christianity" either.

Ive heard people say they are non binary because they don't identify as either gender (or identify as both genders).

They believe in gender. Which seems like believing in God to me.

So when KJK says "there is no such thing as non binary" I think she's being as ideological as someone saying "there is no such thing as god" and setting up an atheist party. I find it strange.

What does non-binary mean? That you believe in binary sexes but somehow you are exempt? Or that binary sexes - male/female - doesn’t exist? If the latter then why describe yourself as non-binary as surely you believe everyone is?

I'm beginning to wonder, OP, whether KJK is doing this purposely so that you will come along with your purity spiral shite and hundreds of women will post to tell you that they don't care because KJK is right on the one thing that matters to them. As POW's intention is to disrupt and offer the opportunity to speak at hustings and no one expects it to win a seat, what KJK thinks on other subjects is irrelevant.

Thank you, though, for publicising POW. Sterling work. Your dark money cheque from a shady right-wing evangelical church is in the post.

I think it means they don't identify with one gender- they identify as both or neither. Gender being the outward expression of biological sex. I'm not NB so I don't fully know. Again, it would be like asking me what it means to be Mormon or something.

What do you mean by "purity spiral shite"? Is it not possible to discuss GC politicians?

So they believe gender is binary except for them?

So they believe gender is binary except for them?

Or they believe sex is binary but gender isn't maybe? Ask a NB person I guess.

But if gender isn’t then why do they think only certain people are non-binary and not everyone making their identity as NB superfluous?

I was hoping someone on here who understands could answer.

You don't understand litigation then.

Ah yes, I wondered how long it'd be before we got another of these threads!

Leave Trump to the Americans in November - leave KJK to get on with letting women speak - she's doing a better job than most women to support the cause - who else puts themselves out there for us

Because I think there is at least the same amount of evidence for a prosecution of Hunter Biden, but no such action has been taken. It's the selectivity that is quite so jarring

I think it's been made quite clear. A parent who is behaving like Susie Green and pretending to their child that they can change sex and pushing for medical transition is transitioning their child.

A parent walking through a gender minefield with their mentally unwell, autistic daughter (for example) and sometimes humouring her by using opposite sex pronouns and a new name she has chosen, while trying to keep her away from an online glitter family and people like the Webberleys, is not transitioning their child, even if you hear them use a wrong sex pronoun in the street.

Man found guilty of mis-recording some payments in his admin, woman has previously liked a tweet (or something) talking about the man, OP comes on to tell everyone that everything you believe (or disagree with) about gender ideology is wrong because of this.

Where does all this simplistic thinking come from?