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KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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MyOleMan · 31/05/2024 14:27

I think this thread shows that it hasn’t been made clear in any way. It’s an ambiguous statement from a person who is supposed to tell it like it is. Weasel words

Brooks11 · 31/05/2024 14:28

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 14:26

Man found guilty of mis-recording some payments in his admin, woman has previously liked a tweet (or something) talking about the man, OP comes on to tell everyone that everything you believe (or disagree with) about gender ideology is wrong because of this.

Where does all this simplistic thinking come from?

Is that genuinely the worst thing you think Trump has done? Suggest you read some news - maybe start with him boasting about grabbing women by the pussy then catch up from there.

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 14:31

OldCrone · 31/05/2024 14:22

I think it's been made quite clear. A parent who is behaving like Susie Green and pretending to their child that they can change sex and pushing for medical transition is transitioning their child.

A parent walking through a gender minefield with their mentally unwell, autistic daughter (for example) and sometimes humouring her by using opposite sex pronouns and a new name she has chosen, while trying to keep her away from an online glitter family and people like the Webberleys, is not transitioning their child, even if you hear them use a wrong sex pronoun in the street.

They are still part of the abuse of their child though. Abuse is still abuse even if done with good intentions. But it is not just parents involved in this - the reason why the parents feels compelled is because they are caught up in an abusive industry. Their efforts might be to try and minimise harm but they are still part of the harm.

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 14:35

Because I think there is at least the same amount of evidence for a prosecution of Hunter Biden, but no such action has been taken. It's the selectivity that is quite so jarring

Yes, this is what is angering so many people in the US. How many past US presidents and politicians and their families have committed dishonest and illegal crimes? It seems to go with the territory but somehow very rarely are they charged and/or found guilty. The unwritten rules have shifted in the case of Trump. He will no doubt have gained many more supporters following this trial.

BackToLurk · 31/05/2024 14:36

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 14:31

They are still part of the abuse of their child though. Abuse is still abuse even if done with good intentions. But it is not just parents involved in this - the reason why the parents feels compelled is because they are caught up in an abusive industry. Their efforts might be to try and minimise harm but they are still part of the harm.

A perfect illustration of how it is not 'quite clear'

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 14:36

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 14:26

Man found guilty of mis-recording some payments in his admin, woman has previously liked a tweet (or something) talking about the man, OP comes on to tell everyone that everything you believe (or disagree with) about gender ideology is wrong because of this.

Where does all this simplistic thinking come from?

That's a very strange take on things Confused

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 14:42

BackToLurk · 31/05/2024 14:36

A perfect illustration of how it is not 'quite clear'

But it is clear. The ‘transitioning’ of the child is abusive as POW states. You are looking to play semantics with precise roles in that abuse.

Windymoore · 31/05/2024 14:49

Brooks11 · 31/05/2024 14:28

Is that genuinely the worst thing you think Trump has done? Suggest you read some news - maybe start with him boasting about grabbing women by the pussy then catch up from there.

Not what he has been criminally charged with: therefore legally unproven

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 14:51

Brooks11 · 31/05/2024 14:28

Is that genuinely the worst thing you think Trump has done? Suggest you read some news - maybe start with him boasting about grabbing women by the pussy then catch up from there.

No, the whole point of this thread is that it says now that Trump has been found guilty (of this particular crime), and the purity spiral is that means being GC is wrong.

This thread was made after the guilty verdict and seems to hinge on him being found guilty in court. It is not a thread about his other behaviours, and we know that the man has always been divisive, I just find it very strange that people seem to think that a guilty verdict over some admin matter must mean that everything changes.

And again it is this ridiculous way to tie in a Trump guilty verdict over the classification of NDA payments to a porn star he knew, to somehow being that people are wrong to be gender critical.

It's like me saying now that Trump has been found guilty does it concern you that you support a football team that includes a player who once tweeted that he agreed with Trump's policy on North Korea.

Elaan · 31/05/2024 14:52

Thanks to the OP , you've reminded me to join party of women.

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 14:52

MyOleMan · 31/05/2024 14:27

I think this thread shows that it hasn’t been made clear in any way. It’s an ambiguous statement from a person who is supposed to tell it like it is. Weasel words

I think that this thread has shown us how disingenuous people can be in pretending that they do not understand something which is pretty clear.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 14:56

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 14:51

No, the whole point of this thread is that it says now that Trump has been found guilty (of this particular crime), and the purity spiral is that means being GC is wrong.

This thread was made after the guilty verdict and seems to hinge on him being found guilty in court. It is not a thread about his other behaviours, and we know that the man has always been divisive, I just find it very strange that people seem to think that a guilty verdict over some admin matter must mean that everything changes.

And again it is this ridiculous way to tie in a Trump guilty verdict over the classification of NDA payments to a porn star he knew, to somehow being that people are wrong to be gender critical.

It's like me saying now that Trump has been found guilty does it concern you that you support a football team that includes a player who once tweeted that he agreed with Trump's policy on North Korea.

No, the point of the thread is to point out that KJK is vocally supportive of a convicted criminal who pays women for sex, cheats on his pregnant wife and boasts about grabbing women by the pussy.

To be fair to OP, lots of pro-KJK posters have got aerated on previous threads if anyone says KJK supports Trump and claimed that posters are smearing KJK and making baseless allegations. I think part of this thread is to document that KJK is in fact a Trump fan.

This is not to do with people being "gender critical" at all.

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 14:57

I think part of this thread is to document that KJK is in fact a Trump fan

And if she is...what then...?

BackToLurk · 31/05/2024 14:59

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 14:57

I think part of this thread is to document that KJK is in fact a Trump fan

And if she is...what then...?

Presumably some people find it difficult to reconcile someone being vocally supportive of Trump while also claiming to champion women

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 15:01

I understand this yes. Is there anything more?

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 15:05

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 14:57

I think part of this thread is to document that KJK is in fact a Trump fan

And if she is...what then...?

Well hopefully it means posters will stop saying KJK is being unfairly smeared when people point out she supports trump/farage etc.
Also a lot of people who read this board are likely to consider voting for PoW so it is good for them to be informed what that stands for and whether that's what they want to vote for.

BackToLurk · 31/05/2024 15:08

Scavernick · 31/05/2024 15:01

I understand this yes. Is there anything more?

Did there need to be more? Are there some sort of limits on what we can discuss about election candidates & party leaders?

Abeona · 31/05/2024 15:11

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 15:05

Well hopefully it means posters will stop saying KJK is being unfairly smeared when people point out she supports trump/farage etc.
Also a lot of people who read this board are likely to consider voting for PoW so it is good for them to be informed what that stands for and whether that's what they want to vote for.

But they'll vote for POW because of KJK's policies on gender ideology and the transitioning of children. POW aren't going to win a seat, but they give GC people an option to vote for: POW is about disrupting, not about winning. It's about getting GC voices heard. It doesn't matter what KJK says or believes about anything else.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 15:12

Abeona · 31/05/2024 15:11

But they'll vote for POW because of KJK's policies on gender ideology and the transitioning of children. POW aren't going to win a seat, but they give GC people an option to vote for: POW is about disrupting, not about winning. It's about getting GC voices heard. It doesn't matter what KJK says or believes about anything else.

It might not to you, but it will to others and voters deserve to be able to make an informed choice.

mrshoho · 31/05/2024 15:14

So what if KJK has shared pro Trump posts? It's not hard for me to reconcile. Trump Vs Biden I'd say for Women Trump is the lesser of two evils. Come across Men like Trump you can tell them to fuck off. Biden on the other hand is happy to allow Men parading as women into what should be single sex spaces and removing women's right to complain about it.

Brooks11 · 31/05/2024 15:15

Windymoore · 31/05/2024 14:49

Not what he has been criminally charged with: therefore legally unproven

It doesn't need to be legally proven there is a recording of him saying it.

I know you'll all not give a shit or accuse me of lying but I am just going to be really honest here. I am deeply GC and quite openly so to the point it has caused me issues at work. I used to find this board a real source of inspiration and courage.

I now find it embarrassing. The twisting and distancing and whataboutery on this thread is reminiscent of TRA tactics. A lot of you (not all of course) are coming off as really unable to apply any critical thinking.

Again, don't bother telling me I am trying to silence women or am a secret man.

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 15:17

Brooks11 · 31/05/2024 15:15

It doesn't need to be legally proven there is a recording of him saying it.

I know you'll all not give a shit or accuse me of lying but I am just going to be really honest here. I am deeply GC and quite openly so to the point it has caused me issues at work. I used to find this board a real source of inspiration and courage.

I now find it embarrassing. The twisting and distancing and whataboutery on this thread is reminiscent of TRA tactics. A lot of you (not all of course) are coming off as really unable to apply any critical thinking.

Again, don't bother telling me I am trying to silence women or am a secret man.

Think what you like but I cannot believe that on a feminist board there are posters lining up to minimise the extreme misogyny Trump has repeatedly shown.

💯 agree 👏

BezMills · 31/05/2024 15:24

"Document she's a Trump fan" oh my good God

DameMaud · 31/05/2024 15:30

illinivich · 31/05/2024 12:56

Noone thinks you can "change sex". People talk about gender, not sex when they talk about trans issues.

This is what the politicians want us to believe, while giving adult birth certificates and passports with the incorrect sex on them.

Polticans want us to pretend that sex and gender are different while they place men in womens hospital wards and prisons.

They want us to believe that gender is self expression - its personal, different for everyone and its no one else business. Yet its a medical issue that needs public funded treatment, and needs official government issued id to be falsified?

Its confusing. There's not a politician alive who had managed to explain it all and sound sane.

Yet we are expecting children to understand the complexities?

That gender and sex are completely different, we just, coincidentally use the same words for each, and use gender and sex interchangeably? That if a girl doesn't want to be a girl, we'll give her a boys name and look at taking her to a clinic, get every other child to join in with the new identity.

Are we sure that the girl understands that she is still a girl, and will always be female? Do all of the other child she associates with understand this too?

This. Thank you

PeppercornMill · 31/05/2024 15:30

CassieMaddox · 31/05/2024 14:56

No, the point of the thread is to point out that KJK is vocally supportive of a convicted criminal who pays women for sex, cheats on his pregnant wife and boasts about grabbing women by the pussy.

To be fair to OP, lots of pro-KJK posters have got aerated on previous threads if anyone says KJK supports Trump and claimed that posters are smearing KJK and making baseless allegations. I think part of this thread is to document that KJK is in fact a Trump fan.

This is not to do with people being "gender critical" at all.

Of course it's got everything to do with gender criticism!

Why are we talking about KJK? What does she campaign for? What is KJK a symbol for?

If KJK is a Trump fan, so what? Will you put in the next post that because KJK supports Trump this does in no way affect anyone's views on trans rights? And shouldn't invalidate any arguments?

Seriously the tactics displayed by you and others is so primitive, naive and something most people mature out of.

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