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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Venice Expelled from KLPA (Ladies Pond(

188 replies

MidnightPondSwimmer · 28/05/2024 17:15

Venice has been expelled from the Ladies Pond. It means nothing really as they are just a stakeholder group, but it makes them look terrible like little authoritarian ignoramuses.

Here's Venice's tweet with their silly email. x.com/roseveniceallan/status/1795437142757532118?s=46

She'll still be able to swim, she just won't be allowed to attend the utterly pointless but entertaining AGM.

It's interesting because they sent an email round a few weeks ago asking members to agree to the constitution and if anyone failed to agree then they would be expected to leave the KLPA.

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GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:35

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:32

No. There is no 'new context' at all. How remarkable that you think it added context to what was already under discussion.

And I have never seen you 'take back' anything that you have written.

Edited

Point to where I "shamed a woman for reporting their abuse."
Not going to address the fact you're just throwing and chatting shit in the hope it sticks?
Would like to know what it's regarding as looks like we've moved onto gaslighting crap now seeing as your personal attacks kept getting deleted.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:37

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:32

Did you vilify Joanne Rowling's 'treatment' of her abuser, India Willoughby? Did you write a post shaming her for making the point that India Willoughby was a male who had a history of abusing her?

Just seen this comment.
I have not shamed JKR on here.
Really hard to know what it actually is you're talking about with no post reference.

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 14:40

I wasn't asking you @YourPinkDog.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:42

What all this has to do with this thread is anyone's guess.
Same old try and discredit posters we don't agree with by
Personal attacks
Trying in vain to link past threads
Gaslighting making posters second guess themselves
It's like you've a book as it's always the same
Next as it's "oh you're trying to derail!'
Nope that'd be you as you're hoping all that would have made me shut up and go away.
Nice try.

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:47

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:35

Point to where I "shamed a woman for reporting their abuse."
Not going to address the fact you're just throwing and chatting shit in the hope it sticks?
Would like to know what it's regarding as looks like we've moved onto gaslighting crap now seeing as your personal attacks kept getting deleted.

How strange. My comments were general comments. Did you report them as personal attacks?

I see though, that we are now in the cycle of denial. I am not making up shit and hoping it sticks. Long time posters will remember the incidents.

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:49

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:37

Just seen this comment.
I have not shamed JKR on here.
Really hard to know what it actually is you're talking about with no post reference.

No worries. Regular posters will no doubt remember that thread.

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 14:50

"You're not womanning right, obvs.
If you don't agree with that poster as they say if you don't then they assume you're a man, or call you a misogynist.
Dems the rules."

This is your comment @GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight.

You brought up the generalisation of not agreeing. You were not just talking about this thread with this comment. So I'm asking you, what is it that you do not agree with the majority of posters on this board?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:51

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:47

How strange. My comments were general comments. Did you report them as personal attacks?

I see though, that we are now in the cycle of denial. I am not making up shit and hoping it sticks. Long time posters will remember the incidents.

My comments were general comments

😂

I am not making up shit and hoping it sticks
Yes you are, throwing threads out there you think are to do with me 😕

Due to your self appointed role as amateur FWR detective with comments like this stick to the day job

Long time posters will remember the incidents
👀😂

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:52

Tell us @GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight . Do you support female people to have their prison's single sex only and completely without male prisoners being included in their estate?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:54

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 13:58

@DialSquare I have said clearly that I agree with the decision to ban Venice Allen from AGMs. Her behaviour was not okay.
I also think that Venice has made transphobic comments, and MN agree as those repeated on here have been deleted.

Again, same
Seeing as this is what the thread is about.
(For the benefit of the poster who asked again and so presumably missed the first time round)

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 14:54

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:51

My comments were general comments

😂

I am not making up shit and hoping it sticks
Yes you are, throwing threads out there you think are to do with me 😕

Due to your self appointed role as amateur FWR detective with comments like this stick to the day job

Long time posters will remember the incidents
👀😂

I don't have to do much really, people's distinctive posting styles don't change despite name changes.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 14:56

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 14:35

@Helleofabore this thread is not about that. It is about Venice Allen.

Exactly!

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 14:58

I see. You're going to hide behind the derail started by you. So if I start a new thread asking the same question, will you post on it and answer?

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 15:01

So most people on here appear to think it is fine for Venice Allen to behave as she did at the AGM And that her tweets posted on here were fine.

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 15:03

I don't believe that Venice Allen should be banned from attending the meetings based on her behaviour at the AGM.

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 15:05

@Helleofabore Why?

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 15:06

The context of her tweets appears to be aimed at TRAs. Not all TRAs are Trans and not all Trans are TRAs so no, I don't think they are transphobic.

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 15:07

@DialSquare she did not talk about transactivists. She used a slur for trans people

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 15:09

But she's taking about the TRAs that turn up to abuse and attack the women at meetings. That's the context.

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 15:10

No need to @ me either as I'm on the thread.

Helleofabore · 30/05/2024 15:12

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 15:05

@Helleofabore Why?

I view her actions at the AGM to be a legitimate peaceful protest against the inclusion of male people at the pools.

Considering what has been described and accepted as 'peaceful protest' recently, why do you think this should not be considered as a legitimate peaceful protest?

YourPinkDog · 30/05/2024 15:14

I accept it was a protest. I also think the group are right to exclude her so she can not disrupt future meetings with her protest.
Or do you really think they should put up Venice protesting every meeting they have?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 15:15

Even if she was, why is it OK to use a slur towards trans people?
When people on here don't like the C word or the TE*F one to the extent that they're now classed as deletable word on here, surely it's hypocrisy at it's finest to be defending someone's right to slur a group of people if it's against a minority group you presumably think deserve it?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 15:16

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 15:09

But she's taking about the TRAs that turn up to abuse and attack the women at meetings. That's the context.

Sorry my last post was in reference to this

DialSquare · 30/05/2024 15:18

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 30/05/2024 15:15

Even if she was, why is it OK to use a slur towards trans people?
When people on here don't like the C word or the TE*F one to the extent that they're now classed as deletable word on here, surely it's hypocrisy at it's finest to be defending someone's right to slur a group of people if it's against a minority group you presumably think deserve it?

Answer my question first.

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