JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).

[TinselAngel]

Be kind, ladies or Debbie will tell you off like one of his pupils.

archive.ph/2024.05.13-070326/www.spectator.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-is-playing-with-fire/

Out of sheer curiosity I went to Glinner’s timeline on TwiX and he is tweeting and retweeting things in support of Rowling describing men as men, he tweeted and retweeted criticism of men telling Rowling to be quiet or be kind, and he directly engaged with Clarke (the person defended by Hayton in his Spectator article) to rebuke the frequent past rude tweets Clarke made to JK Rowling.

Glinner also directly retweeted Rowling’s comment about attention seeking men telling women to be quiet so he obviously agrees with that sentiment but there is no direct mention of Hayton or Hayton’s article that I can find.

He’s reading the room then.

Sorry I should have said, that when it comes to Hayton, Glinner has been bros before hoes.

So you specifically meant being duped by Hayton? OK, I understand - thanks for clarifying. Although it seems a bit harsh to call it bros before hos when several prominent left-wing GC feminists have acted similarly - doesn't seem like a "guys together" thing, iyswim. Happy to leave it there, anyway.

I had such admiration for JKR and what she’s done but JKR since the gloves came off has been glorious. She’s surpassed herself imvho.

I’m glad some people are finally seeing DH for what he is. KJK has long been right on him.

I think this is unfair after all Glinner has been through. He walks his own path as many have seen to his own detriment. He has always supported women.

Hayton has got most of the male GCs onside. He has echoed their arguments for a long time. It takes a woman to see through him.

Totally agree 👏

Most of us are, quite literally, 'gender neutral'. We don't think gender stereotypes are important, there's no right or wrong way to be a woman (or a man), boys can play with dolls and girls can do woodwork etc etc. And - apart from clothes cut specifically to suit the biological requirements of our sexed bodies, such as bras or jockstraps - there's no such thing as girls' clothes or boys' clothes. Just clothes. Wear what you will, what you like, what is practical for the purpose.

But the men wearing stereotypically feminine clothes are often not doing so for the same egalitarian, liberal reasons we support children and women wearing clothes stereotypically associated with the opposite sex.

Pretending that AGP is an 'acceptable' fetish is just another aspect of Be Kind. It causes cognitive dissonance that most fear to address, because they fear not Being Kind.

No one would doubt that Glinner has gone above and beyond. Which is why it was really rather odd how he stuck up for Hayton. There was no logic to it other than 'he's my friend'.

And while that demonstrates admirable loyalty (genuinely), it doesn't smack of the best judgement.

And while that isn't a crime, I'm pretty certain that a lot of women thought it was largely because he was male and that's why he didn't get it. And, crucially, didn't seem too inclined to listen to the women who did.

It takes a massive amount of self analysis to step out of one's socialisation. And men - opinionated, clever men at that - putting women and their opinions first is probably not something that they can achieve on day one.

Given Hayton's woefully ill judged criticism of JK Rolling, I'm willing to bet they're getting it by whatever day today is.

Well let's see.

He's soxxed women
Attacked women from bus platform
Stole women's work
Attacked a young Irish detranis
Harassed Dr em for years
Laughed about telling women to f off when they asked him to stop damaging the women's movement.
Attacked and slandered a young Irish lgb group (who are doing great work)
Demanded women get their platforms (be they irl ornon social media) taken from them as they refuse to accept Hayton
Defended a nonce apologist
I could go on but dinners ready

I've already had the answer to my question from the poster I asked - TinselAngel.

Thanks for responding anyway. I'm torn between asking for some receipts - because it just seems so out of character - and not derailing Tinsel's thread. I'll settle for not derailing.

It's all on Mumsnet, twitter, his videos and blogs women have written about his treatment of them.

You may have asked tinsel but you do know how the internet works right? Glinner and dobbie are peas in a pod.

If I was a penis haver wanting to support Hayton I'd be insisting on him rolling back the guidance he wrote that puts girls at risk. Otherwise is not be having anything to do with him.

It's Glinner's blind spot unfortunately.

It's Glinner's blind spot unfortunately.

It very much is. I hope this peaks him - Bindel-style.

Andrew Doyle put this to Hayton on Free Speech Nation and Hayton claimed it couldn’t be discussed with anyone because it was confidential union business 🙄

"confidential union business", eh? Must remember to use that one sometime...

Forgiving people for what they have done to me is part of my religion too. I am called to forgive Hayton for what he has done that has reduced my safety and limited my life choices, because I am a woman and he has harmed women. It would not be appropriate for me to attempt to forgive him for his behavior except where it has impacted on me. It would be totally wrong (and very presumptuous) for me to forgive him for anything he has done to another person.

It is also important that I express what it is that I need to forgive him for.

I hope so too,he really doesn't see the problem with Hayton.

Men, even perfectly decent men, often seem quite unable to believe that women really exist and experience the world in different ways from the ways men do.

Yes, I know there are exceptions to that - they are exceptional in more ways than one.

three post nutter, that was why I thought a man telling women about how he forgave Hayton seemed a little inappropriate.

Kermit has a rainbow connection.