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JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).

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TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 12:08

Be kind, ladies or Debbie will tell you off like one of his pupils.

archive.ph/2024.05.13-070326/www.spectator.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-is-playing-with-fire/

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fromorbit · 13/05/2024 13:18

Don't think anyone has pointed out the stats.

There are not many women football managers for women teams. So claiming the fact we have a crossdresser in charge of one team is particularly meaningless.

As of January 2024, only one third of coaches managing in England’s highest female division, the Women’s Super League (WSL), are women. Chelsea’s Emma Hayes, Aston Villa’s Carla Ward, West Ham’s Rehanne Skinner and Bristol City’s Lauren Smith make up the female managers working in the league.
The Women’s Championship, one tier below the WSL, has a more balanced split as 50% of the managers are female, but when we look at England as a whole, only 21 women across the country hold a UEFA Pro Licence - Hayes being one of them.

https://olympics.com/en/news/football-few-female-coaches-english-football-chelsea-boss-emma-hayes

Football: Why are there so few female coaches in English football? Chelsea boss Emma Hayes on “closing the gap”

Discover why Chelsea boss Emma Hayes thinks there are so few female coaches in English football

https://olympics.com/en/news/football-few-female-coaches-english-football-chelsea-boss-emma-hayes

illinivich · 13/05/2024 13:18

He thinks he can repeat the chaos he initiated after the 'marigolds' interview, when women rushed to pronoun him.

Something tells me he won't be as successful this time. He's probably going to turn more people into ultras.

Hoardasurass · 13/05/2024 13:18

Just a few

JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 13:19

Hoardasurass · 13/05/2024 13:09

The comments on that piece are glorious will screenshot some shortly 😄

Please do!

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Datun · 13/05/2024 13:20

UtopiaPlanitia · 13/05/2024 13:14

During pronoungate (following Janice Turner’s book promotion interview) Hayton had loads of GC people and feminists like Turner and Bindel and Freeman and Stock lecturing women for being GC Ultra for not using female pronouns to describe Hayton.

Since JKR started her campaign against the Scottish Hate Crime Act by correctly sexing men who are claiming a women identity, I’ve noticed a lot of those public feminists follow her example which means them not always holding to their previous statements that it’s polite to use female pronouns for some AGP men.

I believe this change in their behaviour is very likely to irritate Hayton because 1) he likes being the AGP that is friends with GC feminists and allowed into women’s campaigns. And 2) Hayton likes having feminists rush to his defence online when his woman identity is challenged (in spite of his constantly telling the public that he knows he’s male and doesn’t mind correct sex pronouns).

How is Hayton’s article telling JKR off for correctly sexing men going down with the feminists who decried us as Ultras for doing what JKR has been doing recently?

Yeah, since Debbie thought he was the only one controlling the handle, he's probably a bit annoyed that the Overton window is being opened further than he intended.

Honestly, it does get me. What person genuinely thinks they can tell the world that they dress in women's clothes as a sexual fetish, and then expect to retain credibility when they're talking about men who dress in women's clothes??

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/05/2024 13:22

Yeah, since Debbie thought he was the only one controlling the handle, he's probably a bit annoyed that the Overton window is being opened further than he intended.

Honestly, it does get me. What person genuinely thinks they can tell the world that they dress in women's clothes as a sexual fetish, and then expect to retain credibility when they're talking about men who dress in women's clothes??

It's the ultimate dupers' delight thrill.

WickedSerious · 13/05/2024 13:27

He's no 'ally' to feminists.

ResisterRex · 13/05/2024 13:27

How is Hayton’s article telling JKR off for correctly sexing men going down with the feminists who decried us as Ultras for doing what JKR has been doing recently?

Also intrigued to see this, although imagine they'll ignore it because they won't want to be seen to go up against JKR. It's alright to lecture us boring old wimmin from up on high, from the safety of your nice cushy column etc., but they won't wanna do any of this in public.

illinivich · 13/05/2024 13:33

Julie bindel has already picked a side on twitter: I've just messaged Hayton and torn him one he wishes he'd been born with. I have no fucks left to give

TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 13:34

illinivich · 13/05/2024 13:33

Julie bindel has already picked a side on twitter: I've just messaged Hayton and torn him one he wishes he'd been born with. I have no fucks left to give

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She's been right behind him until he picked on her mate JKR. Shes a bit late to the party I'm afraid.

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NameChange0101010101 · 13/05/2024 13:36

TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 13:34

She's been right behind him until he picked on her mate JKR. Shes a bit late to the party I'm afraid.

Better late than never though, eh?

Mollyollydolly · 13/05/2024 13:39

So glad Hayton wrote this. Even Bindel's finally seen the light. A master manipulator. Just another of the many men telling her off for not 'being kind.' Give it a year Hayton will be writing tweets like Willoughby.

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:43

illinivich · 13/05/2024 13:33

Julie bindel has already picked a side on twitter: I've just messaged Hayton and torn him one he wishes he'd been born with. I have no fucks left to give

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Vastly irritated though I was with anyone who bought his bullshit, that is one hell of a tweet 🤣🤣🤣

EdithStourton · 13/05/2024 13:43

Debbie Hatton: Woman - and other women - KNOW YOUR PLACE
FWR regulars: ODFOD.

I thinks that sums it up.

Some of those Spectator comments are gold.

Glinner is - or was - a mate of Debbie's. Has he said anything?

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:44

Mollyollydolly · 13/05/2024 13:39

So glad Hayton wrote this. Even Bindel's finally seen the light. A master manipulator. Just another of the many men telling her off for not 'being kind.' Give it a year Hayton will be writing tweets like Willoughby.

Even less, I reckon. The reaction to what he must have imagined to be a reasonable piece, will be telling.

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:45

Hoardasurass

If you have time, are there any more worth posting?

Hoardasurass · 13/05/2024 13:49

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:45

Hoardasurass

If you have time, are there any more worth posting?

Hundreds will get some more shortly

UtopiaPlanitia · 13/05/2024 13:50

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:44

Even less, I reckon. The reaction to what he must have imagined to be a reasonable piece, will be telling.

Hayton’s fashioned a strong media presence based on telling women off while pretending to be a reasonable version of a man claiming a woman identity. Why Bindel et al were content to let Hayton lecture other women about their campaigning and analysis is beyond me but they were.

So why they now feel shocked at him turning his lecturing behaviour onto their friend is a bit hypocritical. If anything they puffed him up and put him on that media pedestal so it’s no bloody wonder Hayton’s feeling full enough of his own entitlement to try and tell them off too.

TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 13:57

I've just located that date I started warning people about Hayton- November 2018.

Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3430608-Stella-OMalley-Trans-Kids-Its-Time-To-Talk

JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
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DialSquare · 13/05/2024 13:57

This one in particular made me laugh!

JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).
Datun · 13/05/2024 13:58

I've just messaged Hayton and torn him one he wishes he'd been born with. I have no fucks left to give

I can't get over Bindel saying 'torn him one he wishes he'd been born with'.

It's soo LADBible 😄

For someone who likes to carefully curate every single thing he says and does, in order to control people's reaction to him, that's going to go down like a lead balloon with Hayton.

TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 14:01

DialSquare · 13/05/2024 13:57

This one in particular made me laugh!

He wishes he looked that good.

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TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 14:01

Datun · 13/05/2024 13:58

I've just messaged Hayton and torn him one he wishes he'd been born with. I have no fucks left to give

I can't get over Bindel saying 'torn him one he wishes he'd been born with'.

It's soo LADBible 😄

For someone who likes to carefully curate every single thing he says and does, in order to control people's reaction to him, that's going to go down like a lead balloon with Hayton.

I'm not sure he'll be bothered. He's moved on from the gentry left now.

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DialSquare · 13/05/2024 14:02

TinselAngel · 13/05/2024 14:01

He wishes he looked that good.

😂

Mollyollydolly · 13/05/2024 14:05

I do understand how years ago people fell for it. I did for a while I admit years ago. Women were so afraid of being branded bigots they went along with 'reasonable' people like Hayton. Then the scales fell from my eyes. I'm surprised how long it's taken some, like Bindel. It does show however, how manipulative these people are. Trans Widows understood this long before anyone else. I wonder how it makes Bindel feel, does she feel like she was manipulated when she looks back? I don't suppose she'd ever admit it if she did.
Anyway glad Hayton wrote it, served a very useful purpose. You can't have truth just for the people you don't like and accept lies for those you do like. It doesn't work, it's illogical.

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