JKR reprimanded by "feminist" "ally" for being unhelpful (to him).

[TinselAngel]

Be kind, ladies or Debbie will tell you off like one of his pupils.

archive.ph/2024.05.13-070326/www.spectator.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-is-playing-with-fire/

@CountingCrones

it was being reported as a New Progressive Thing when, as JKR points out, it’s merely the same old middle aged white blokes getting jobs.

Yes. The whole progressive wittering about trans inclusive feminism obscures the fact that not one single female person, the people whose oppression feminism supposedly exists to fight, gains anything from all this.

It's like redefining the top 100 richest households in Mayfar as being "legally" in Tower Hamlets then claiming you've massively increased the average wealth of the people of Tower Hamlets. Technically yes you have but no person already in Tower Hamlets saw any change in their circumstances.

I do wonder if a time will come when Hayton regrets that he chose to watch all that sissy porn.

Of course the rest of his family have been regretting his choice for years.

I think he might regret telling everyone about it.

Oh and writing an entire book about it.

And yelling about it in all the newspapers.

there really should be some kind of Darwin award, to be honest.

Unless he has a humiliation fetish as well. Which is likely.

Oh gawd.

But yes.

😱

gods I love Kellie -Jae! She supports women above all else and she gave it to Julie Bindel; and rightfully so!
I always felt for the wives and children of these ghastly men. They come first not AGP men.

Brendan O'Neill giving Hayton what for

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-is-no-bully/

I do love me a good BO'N rant. His opinion on Bambi Thug in Spiked I also found quite entertaining. Although, in both articles, that what he said even warranted saying is sad and depressing if you think about it too much.

An absolutely superb post by James Dreyfus regarding men (mostly) saying that JKR isn't being 'kind' enough -

'Unless you’ve followed or paid close attention to what @jk_rowling
has been saying, extremely courteously & politely for 10 long years now, & witnessed the decade-long, non-stop onslaught of the worst possible abuse, threats, lies & slander… UNLESS you’re 100% aware of how civilly & calmly she has conducted herself in the face of such vitriol, hatred & aggression & actively involving family members… UNLESS you’ve watched, time & time again, men telling her to “sit down & shut up”, “control yourself, woman” or “I don’t think that’s very nice. Why can’t you just be kind & accept what we are telling you?”, I’m really NOT convinced that it’s your f*ing place to pop up NOW & instruct her to exercise ‘basic common decency’… SHE’S BEEN DOING THAT FOR 10 YEARS. So, I’m sure all you bleating, barking men, out there, who’ve suddenly decided she’s “crossed a line”, you, embarrassingly, HAVEN’T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, have you? She’s done the whole “being kind” schtick. (For many more years than most of us would, to be honest). Where has that got her?

TRA’s don’t CARE about that. They are going to hate her regardless. They want the hate. They crave it. Nevertheless, she continued to debate with grace & courtesy, whilst others raged at her from basements etc, worldwide. But, to you, watching from the sidelines, now popping up like f*ing whack-a-moles, you might have failed to notice that she is out of fucks to give & has said so. Clearly.

And believe it or not, she has the unwavering gratitude & support of a HUGE (& ever-growing) number of women, girls, gay people, transsexuals, detransitioners, parents & children. Why? Because she took the fall for those who felt they had no voices nor a chance to say “No”. Well, they do now. And if that bugs the heck out of you, you’ll have to find a better coping strategy. Because our voices, loudly & given strength because of her, will NEVER deny the truth & always speak up for those who are TRULY vulnerable & marginalised. And shame on all the Q+ organisations for turning your backs on her, after all the help & financial support she gave to those with HIV. Shame on you. Thank you again @jk_rowling for standing tall & for NOT “staying in your goddamn’d place!” (Please RT. Account restricted. As per.)'

x.com/DreyfusJames/status/1790062617798508643

A ‘straight, white, middle-aged bloke’ complains about a woman calling a ‘straight, white, middle-aged bloke’ a ‘straight, white, middle-aged bloke’.

In a nutshell.

Yes, I always remember Hayton as the person who developed trans guidance for schools, including this section on "Dual Role People"

Blokes who are part-time crossdressers should of course be able to use women's toilets, according to Hayton.

https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/id/eprint/33503/1/085066bb-c224-40de-b79e2a1358801ee9.pdf

"Supporting Dual-role People
Some people manage their gender dysphoria by living as a man or a woman in
different aspects of their lives. For example, they may work in a male role but socialise in a female role.
Although the protected characteristic under the Equality Act
is gender reassignment, it is best to assume that dual-role
people are covered by perception that they might transition.
Like everyone else they deserve to be treated with dignity
and respect.
In practical terms, there should be no issues unless the different aspects of their
lives overlap in some way. For example, a male teacher might want to attend a staff party as a woman. In that case they would probably prefer to use a female name and feminine pronouns, and they should be allowed to use the toilets
appropriate to the gender in which they are presenting."

And what a surprise that Hayton approves of Elon Musk's helpful suggestion to JKR:

"Her output has become increasingly single-issue. Even the man in charge of the platform has noticed.
Last week, Elon Musk told Rowling that, ‘While I heartily agree with your points regarding sex/gender, may I suggest also posting interesting and positive content on other matters?’ But those ‘other matters’ might not bring in the hits."

Yeah, most of us were not as impressed with that as Hayton seems to be.

"I love Kellie -Jae! She supports women above all else and she gave it to Julie Bindel; and rightfully so!
I always felt for the wives and children of these ghastly men. They come first not AGP men."

What took Bindel so long? For a professional feminist she couldn't see what was obvious and pointed out regularly here.

It is vicious but with Bindel, the viciousness is never far from the surface.

It means to rip a new anus in the other person, so yes, it is violent imagery.

I once knew a mum who would use that sort of delightful language with her children, including 'if you don't stop that, my boot will go right up your arse'. She's no longer my friend, obvs.

The key word there is 'professional'. She had ideological blinkers on.

I didn’t know that Helen Joyce dismissed her concerns about DH. HJ, who I have so much respect for, has gone down in my estimation.

What I could never get my head around was Julie's insistence that working with the wrong people was key to her methodology, but yet she was hoodwinked by a man in a dress so easily. Every when so many other people were screaming 'Nooooooo' at her.

I mean, the pic of him in his rubber gloves might have been a huge hint!

Yes! And Venice Allen. I was there and I thought they were being mean. How wrong I was.

Who is a heretic you admire? I like this question from Andrew Gold. My answer is Kellie Jay Keen who is the only woman in the UK who has consistenly (almost every week day for the last 5 + years) worked without salary on behalf of women publicly in this movement. Not rich women with status. She hasn't been lauded by other well off women with status. She has been herself, irreverent, honest, funny, absolutely steely, and yet kind and supportive of her sex. For years she said nothing as she was disavowed by other women in this "movement" for being herself. Sometimes she goes too far in her presentations. She really is the woman next door. But she is the voice of this movement for me. A woman who says what she thinks in public. She stands above even JKR considering what she has given of herself on behalf of women in the Uk and overseas. I would love to see the "acceptable and reasonable" public facing GC feminists give her acknowledgement for telling the truth.

I'm seeing a lot of this - the idea that women are basically correct but go on about it too much. Rory Stewart said similar in an interview recently.

I think that as trans ideology is being exposed, but is showing no signs of shame and disappearing of its own accord, people dont want to deal with the consequences of actually doing something about it. We are expected to ignore the ideology and hope it goes away eventually.

Kellie Jay video discussing the current Hayton kerfuffle:

The section between 11.30 to 12.30 sums up the issue spectacularly well.

Yep.

Yes it does. I suppose some of the well known GC advocates fear association with KJK because she doesn't have a politician's approach. The changes that need to happen are political now, and legal, as well as societal. Perhaps they fear that genderism has such a hold on us that honesty can be painted as bigotry and written off.

I think someone like JKR or Helen Joyce or Julie Bindel might acknowledge the points around language that KJK makes as valid. Women don't agree on everything (or anything) and don't have to. But KJK makes the same points Sex Matters makes, Transgender Trend, JKR. She just refuses to um and ah and compromise truth or tell other women they should do that. And importantly she role models for other women - she practices what she preaches.

It is fine for these public spokeswomen to say for example that we shouldn't have to use pronouns but then nevertheless to go ahead and use them or choose to use them on occasion or argue publicly that is a personal choice. This misses the point that it is a difficult choice to follow at present. I think this messaging is so complicated it is still unsupportive of those who want to simply speak the truth.

Looking at the posts on this board around women fearing job loss or ostracisation for not using preferred pronouns tells us just that.

Forgive him for what?