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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male friend on FB (a doctor no less), telling me that trans women are real women.

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Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 21:48

I shared a meme on FB, about not supporting trans women in female sports.

A male friend of mine, who is a GP, commented that trans women are real women 🙄 I replied that trans women are men, and that my gripe was men in women’s sports, and men (rapists like Karen White), being housed in female prisons.

He then said that he knew lots of trans men, who just wanted to live a peaceful life, and I’m thinking well yes, because they are actually biologically female!

He then went on to quote all manner of statistics about violence from men against trans women and how trans women are at more risk of violence than cis women (I hate that term). and how cis women are more likely to be attacked by cis men than trans women.

It’s been annoying me all day. Here is another male telling me what to think, but also, whether the violence comes from normal men against trans women (who are men), or trans women against real women, this is essentially a male violence problem.

Because, we as women, aren’t the perpetrators in any of this. So men, stay in your own lane and sort out all your shit. You don’t get to throw the men you don’t like into our lane (bathrooms and prisons), and make us your collateral damage.

If a fox said that it felt like it was a chicken, you wouldn’t let it sleep in the chicken coup, just in case it was lying.

I may not have articulated this in the best way!

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theskippersdifferent · 29/04/2024 22:09

A doctor denying biology? Since when does accuracy stop being critical?

DuesToTheDirt · 29/04/2024 22:10

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:05

why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you know any transwomen?

What's the relevance of OP knowing any transwomen? They're men, whether or not she knows them personally, whether or not they are nice people, whether or not they are misunderstood and vulnerable. They are still men.

Apollo441 · 29/04/2024 22:10

The stats about male violence against transwomen are made up bollocks. Taken from transwomen prostitutes in favelas. The stats for violence against female prostitutes are worse. As you'd expect. A woman is much less able to defend herself against an attack by a man. A transwoman on the other hand has an even chance. In the UK transwoman are safer than most other demographics.
Honestly ask for sources next time he spews such nonsense.

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 29/04/2024 22:10

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:05

why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you know any transwomen?

Yes, Op. Why do you feel so strongly about the erasure of your sex category, changes to public policy that endanger women and girls, and being lectured about how silly and bigoted you are by self-important men when you dare to raise concerns? Be kind.

PhuckyNell · 29/04/2024 22:10

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fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:12

DuesToTheDirt · 29/04/2024 22:10

What's the relevance of OP knowing any transwomen? They're men, whether or not she knows them personally, whether or not they are nice people, whether or not they are misunderstood and vulnerable. They are still men.

Because if she did, she would realise they are real people, who have chosent to turn away from violence linked to masculinity and no risk to anyone.

PhuckyNell · 29/04/2024 22:12

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:05

why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you know any transwomen?

She knows some blokes

DuesToTheDirt · 29/04/2024 22:13

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:12

Because if she did, she would realise they are real people, who have chosent to turn away from violence linked to masculinity and no risk to anyone.

You're not very well informed on this topic, are you?

Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 22:13

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:05

why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you know any transwomen?

I don’t want men taking women’s sports titles

I don’t want men in female bathrooms

I don’t want men in female changing rooms

I don’t want men (especially rapists) in female prisons

I don’t want a man to win “woman of the year” at anything

I don’t want men with no periods being the face of tampons

I don’t want men with no breasts advertising sports bras

I don’t want men in dresses telling lesbians to like lady dick

I don’t want hairy Paul (who today says he’s Paula) on the changing rooms with little girls

I could go on and on. Why don’t you feel strongly about this ? You’re either a man (with no daughters) or you are walking through life with a blindfold on.

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PhuckyNell · 29/04/2024 22:14

Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 21:59

I have to be careful as he is my husbands long term friend. I definitely argued my point but had to be polite.

Being polite hasn't worked. The truth now is what we need at all times and in all scenarios. 💯

Waitwhat23 · 29/04/2024 22:15

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:12

Because if she did, she would realise they are real people, who have chosent to turn away from violence linked to masculinity and no risk to anyone.

Honestly, it's almost too tedious to have to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning but for the lurkers....

Male friend on FB (a doctor no less), telling me that trans women are real women.
BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 29/04/2024 22:15

Because if she did, she would realise they are real people, who have chosent to turn away from violence linked to masculinity and no risk to anyone.

Yep, exactly. No transwomen murderers, rapists, sexual assaulters, or anything like that. No violent crime committed by transwomen. That never happens. Certainly not at typically male rates...nope. No siree. Nothing to see here.

CheapThrillsMeanNothing · 29/04/2024 22:17

@fungipie
Such as Isla Bryson, Barbie Kardashian and Scarlet Blake?
They just moved away from violence did they?
Are they a risk to anyone?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/04/2024 22:20

Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 21:59

I have to be careful as he is my husbands long term friend. I definitely argued my point but had to be polite.

Why? I wouldn't have let this stop me.

A moron is a moron. DH would back me up anyway. And, if he didn't, he could get stuffed frankly.

Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 22:23

Waitwhat23 · 29/04/2024 22:15

Honestly, it's almost too tedious to have to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning but for the lurkers....

Thanks for this. It’s so tedious isn’t it? Men commit the most crime (92%), whether they wear male or female clothing.

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Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 22:24

MistyGreenAndBlue · 29/04/2024 22:20

Why? I wouldn't have let this stop me.

A moron is a moron. DH would back me up anyway. And, if he didn't, he could get stuffed frankly.

It didn’t stop me. I argued my point, I just could say fuck you or similar

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Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 22:25

I mean, come on!

Male friend on FB (a doctor no less), telling me that trans women are real women.
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AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/04/2024 22:27

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:05

why do you feel so strongly about this? Do you know any transwomen?

A) Yes

B) Why are you so apathetic about this? Don't you know any current or former female prisoners?

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 29/04/2024 22:28

Waitwhat23 · 29/04/2024 22:15

Honestly, it's almost too tedious to have to point out the obvious flaws in your reasoning but for the lurkers....

Those stats are very worrying!

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:28

Males 'identifying as women' are NOT 'transwomen'.

TomeTome · 29/04/2024 22:28

I have to be careful as he is my husbands long term friend. I definitely argued my point but had to be polite. In what way do you have to “be careful”? You can disagree with your husbands friends.

newtlover · 29/04/2024 22:29

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:12

Because if she did, she would realise they are real people, who have chosent to turn away from violence linked to masculinity and no risk to anyone.

hilarious

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2024 22:30

How does a person qualify as a transwoman?

There is literally only one qualifying factor that they need to possess to be a transwoman.

They have to be male.

No females can be transwomen.

Therefore transwomen are not women.

Blondiebeachbabe · 29/04/2024 22:30

TomeTome · 29/04/2024 22:28

I have to be careful as he is my husbands long term friend. I definitely argued my point but had to be polite. In what way do you have to “be careful”? You can disagree with your husbands friends.

I absolutely argued my point!! Until he shut up.

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ArabellaScott · 29/04/2024 22:35

fungipie · 29/04/2024 22:28

Males 'identifying as women' are NOT 'transwomen'.

What ... what do you think a transwoman is?

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