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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Chestfeeding' to be banned in NHS crackdown

159 replies

RoyalCorgi · 27/04/2024 20:35

Victoria Atkins is going to demand that NHS trusts stop using terms like chestfeeding, according to the Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/27/nhs-to-limit-trans-ideology-with-new-constitution/

‘Chestfeeding’ to be banned in NHS crackdown

The health service is to limit trans ideology with new constitution

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/27/nhs-to-limit-trans-ideology-with-new-constitution

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ChefsKisser · 27/04/2024 20:37

Thank god. If nothing else milk is produced by breast tissue which males and females have. You don’t call it chest cancer if a male has breast cancer.

bakewellbride · 27/04/2024 20:45

Good, let's end the madness. Chestfeeding, uterus / vagina / cervix havers, menstruators.... the whole lot of it can just fuck off! I hate it!

ATerrorofLeftovers · 27/04/2024 20:47

Great news. I hope this approach remains after the election.

lonelywater · 27/04/2024 20:47

how long before we look back at all this and think "what the fuck was that about?" 5 years? ten years?

AnneLovesGilbert · 27/04/2024 20:47

Good. It’ll take some doing, lots of vested interests in the NHS, but promising she’s trying.

StarlightLime · 27/04/2024 20:49

Oh, thank Christ!

WagnersFourthSymphony · 27/04/2024 20:58

I recommend The Word is Woman where Milli Hill documents the crazy erasure of the word 'woman'. La Leche League is one of those so desperate to be inclusive that it seems to overlook who does the vast majority of breastfeeding.

Common Misconception
Myth: "Exclusive bodyfeeding is what every family should do"

Fact: Families should be supported to feed human milk in the capacity they desire, are able to attain, sustain and enjoy.

Reach out to a Leader, we will always reach you where you are.
^^

MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/04/2024 21:06

Well that's cheered me up! Should never have got to this stage but finally sense is creeping back in to society.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 27/04/2024 21:07

Wow, hopefully it will go through.

All these changes have been dizzying, but do people think they will be overturned when labour gets in ?

EasternStandard · 27/04/2024 21:07

Fantastic

Keep going

Otterly2 · 27/04/2024 21:10

Sajid Javid said this in 2022. Steve Barclay said this in 2023. And now Victoria Atkins. The NHS is not listening to any of them and it needs to be enforced somehow.

KnickerlessParsons · 27/04/2024 21:12

Perhaps they'll stop inviting "anyone who has a cervix" to have smear tests now too then, and save some ink by just inviting women.

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2024 21:13

Hullafuckingloojah.

The worst bit is its gong to cost a fucking fortunate to update everything now because they did this in the first bloody place. As if this was ever a good spend of precious maternity funds. Exactly WHO benefitted from it? It wasn't women.

Based · 27/04/2024 21:14

Will anything change before the general election, though?

NHS trusts can quite plausibly say they don't have time to re-write all their publications immediately, and by the time a review takes place we might have a different government.

Betweenthe2 · 27/04/2024 21:16

I thought you were against policing language and compelled speech.
I guess you think it's OK when it's in a way you agree with.

RedToothBrush · 27/04/2024 21:18

Based · 27/04/2024 21:14

Will anything change before the general election, though?

NHS trusts can quite plausibly say they don't have time to re-write all their publications immediately, and by the time a review takes place we might have a different government.

I have a suspicion that Labour will quietly not object.

Spidey senses are tingling.

tillyandmilly · 27/04/2024 21:19

About time !

takemeawayagain · 27/04/2024 21:20

Betweenthe2 · 27/04/2024 21:16

I thought you were against policing language and compelled speech.
I guess you think it's OK when it's in a way you agree with.

The NHS have been calling things by silly names and now they're hopefully going to stop. That is all.

WipeYourFeet · 27/04/2024 21:21

WagnersFourthSymphony · 27/04/2024 20:58

I recommend The Word is Woman where Milli Hill documents the crazy erasure of the word 'woman'. La Leche League is one of those so desperate to be inclusive that it seems to overlook who does the vast majority of breastfeeding.

Common Misconception
Myth: "Exclusive bodyfeeding is what every family should do"

Fact: Families should be supported to feed human milk in the capacity they desire, are able to attain, sustain and enjoy.

Reach out to a Leader, we will always reach you where you are.
^^

Sorry? What?! BODYFEEDING?!!
That's insane - if you didn't know the background you'd be forgiven they were thanking about cannibalism!

Betterifido · 27/04/2024 21:26

I was gonna start my own thread on this but will jump on here, I am GC but often more ‘live and let live’ type. However, I follow a lady called Kris Hallenga who set up a charity called CoppaFeel, and I have noticed their new branding is all about check your chest, rather than check your boobs. I am SO pissed about this as I think it’s genuinely confusing for people. My chest is around where my lungs are, or when you get a chesty cough. A different body part to boobs. I feel that this confusing messaging is actually putting women’s lives I danger and diluting the message of a very good charity. They are BOOBS, BREASTS, BOOBIES. Not chest. That’s a different body part. Rant over.

WeightoftheWorld · 27/04/2024 21:33

Betterifido · 27/04/2024 21:26

I was gonna start my own thread on this but will jump on here, I am GC but often more ‘live and let live’ type. However, I follow a lady called Kris Hallenga who set up a charity called CoppaFeel, and I have noticed their new branding is all about check your chest, rather than check your boobs. I am SO pissed about this as I think it’s genuinely confusing for people. My chest is around where my lungs are, or when you get a chesty cough. A different body part to boobs. I feel that this confusing messaging is actually putting women’s lives I danger and diluting the message of a very good charity. They are BOOBS, BREASTS, BOOBIES. Not chest. That’s a different body part. Rant over.

Agree with this and wanted to opt out and tell them why, but then I do genuinely use the reminders so have held my nose and haven't.

Rainbowshit · 27/04/2024 21:34

Betweenthe2 · 27/04/2024 21:16

I thought you were against policing language and compelled speech.
I guess you think it's OK when it's in a way you agree with.

Lives were being put in danger by using nonsense terms like "person with a cervix". This is just restoring sense.

JellySaurus · 27/04/2024 21:36

Betweenthe2 · 27/04/2024 21:16

I thought you were against policing language and compelled speech.
I guess you think it's OK when it's in a way you agree with.

The compelled speech is people being compelled to pretend that women, their breasts, and their uniquely female ability to breastfeed, do not exist.

If a transman mother wants natal care and breastfeeding support that does not mention terminology they reject or feel upset by, they are not compelled to accept accurate terminology. That support, written or spoken, can be provided using woman-erasing language if that person needs it. But it must not be the default. Woman-eating language harms women.

Forester1 · 27/04/2024 21:38

Otterly2 · 27/04/2024 21:10

Sajid Javid said this in 2022. Steve Barclay said this in 2023. And now Victoria Atkins. The NHS is not listening to any of them and it needs to be enforced somehow.

I think something that has changed is it’s now in mainstream news. I would consider myself as someone who follows current affairs quite closely but I was oblivious to all this until about 18 months ago.

WagnersFourthSymphony · 27/04/2024 21:41

I recommend The Word is Woman where Milli Hill documents the crazy erasure of the word 'woman'. La Leche League is one of those so desperate to be inclusive that it seems to overlook who does the vast majority of breastfeeding.

Common Misconception
Myth: "Exclusive bodyfeeding is what every family should do"

Fact: Families should be supported to feed human milk in the capacity they desire, are able to attain, sustain and enjoy.

Reach out to a Leader, we will always reach you where you are.
https://millihill.substack.com/p/the-word-is-woman-34