'Chestfeeding' to be banned in NHS crackdown

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Victoria Atkins is going to demand that NHS trusts stop using terms like chestfeeding, according to the Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/27/nhs-to-limit-trans-ideology-with-new-constitution/

Next on the list- ‘pregnant people’ needs to go

The DT article talks of an eight week consultation, which I'm assuming will be public.

I’ll be so glad if they do stop. Quite apart from the whole “taking away our language” and dehumanising us thing, their terminology is ugly. Chest feeding and bodyfeeding both sound grim. People with “female bodypart of choice” is clumsy. If someone can make it all go away, I would be eternally grateful!

This is assuming the madness goes away..there's many other countries infested too.

It surely cannot stand-it's all complete bollocks.

Yes indeed. No celebrations from me on this until I see it happening.

Yes.

I think it's right and good that the sadly damaged and delusional young women who have been lied to and told that they will find true happiness in pretending to be men are still able to access sex-appropriate treatment so the NHS should train staff to be able to use this "sex neutral" language if they are dealing with a patient who will be upset by hearing (accurate) female terminology.

However it must not be the default that the vast majority of women have to go along with. They need simple and accurate terminology that correctly refers to their female bodies without a word salad. That doesn't stop those who need a word salad from asking for it.

I do not approve of the announcement of sex-neutral language being banned. It should not be banned, it just shouldn't be the default, and should only be used for those who need it.

NHS leaflets are produced in Urdu and Polish and Ukrainian and dozens of other languages. They can easily produce a separate version in sex-neutral terminology with a small print run so that everyone gets the information they need in a format they can access.

No! That fucked up nonsense is what got us here in the first place. Human beings can’t change sex and if you are pregnant then your a woman, if you are feeding a baby it’s from your female breasts. Men shouldn’t be attempting to get babies to ingest hormone laden secretions from their chests for validation in the first place. Women are told to be very careful what we are ingesting as it can go to the baby through the breast milk, so why is a cocktail of synthetic hormones like that allowed? They have no idea what the long term consequences will be, that’s not safe. If anyone says that’s unkind then they are putting the validation of adults before the safety of babies, end of story. Sorry, but the whole thing has to be banned and only easily understood factual language used for everyone in a health care setting, no exceptions, we need to stop mollycoddling.

OMG
the article is so promising! This is really really good news, though like pps I daren’t believe it at this point.

Imagine not being a native speaker and trying to figure out bodyfeeding and cervix haver.
Many languages have masculine or feminine for everything. You cannot just change those languages to become sex neutral. It makes no sense.
I know someone who works as an interpreter for the nhs. People will think she's an idiot who can't speak the language if she tried to use different sex pronouns or sex neutralise the language.

Omg! Just had a look at their twitter. Couldn’t believe it, it’s all about checking your ‘chest’. Makes me think of listening to your breathing with stethoscope for their monthly chest check.
To top it all their pics at the top of their feed is of a man checking his chest
FFS
so idiotic it should cease to exist

Can there be a new policy where healthcare workers actually deliver healthcare, that would be so innovative

Do you not grasp that someone has to write official literature and health services information, and there is a clear service requirement for that to be accurate and useful?

I also note this from the telegraph article

'Kemi Badenoch, the women and equalities minister, has backed calls for a public inquiry into the “pervasive influence” of transgender ideology in the NHS.'

Can "bonus hole" be deleted too, how crass & degrading 🤮 If you have a cervix it's because you are a biological female, end of.

I hope they ban the practice as well as the words. I hate the fact that in order to validate their feelz these men are co-opting a baby - who cannot give their consent - as a prop in their fantasy. Wtf is that child going to feel when they get older and can understand?

I hate it.

I've tried to challenge some of this NHS shit today and although I've not been ignored I'm not happy with their response and would welcome suggestions about what I can say or do next.

My local maternity dept put this poster out on their social media. I commented, objecting to the phrase 'birthing people', saying that every one that gives birth is a women and we should be called women. This is their confused response, it maybe a small victory but it's still infuriating.

First I’d heard of it. What a fucking disgraceful, insulting term. How did the existence and reality of women become so offensive? The people using this term needs their heads looked at.

Omg. I just can’t. I have to pretend I never saw this or my head will explode. Well done for challenging it.

I doubt it will. Soon as Labour is safely in they will revert to weird ideology again. and gay giraffes.

@Dineasair I wasn't talking about the totally fucked up weirdness of male people inducing lactation. You are totally right that shit is unacceptable.

But if an actually female person has been so damaged by internal and external misogyny that she wants to opt out of the category of "woman" altogether then yes that's not healthy but in the event of pregnancy that person and their baby still deserves healthcare they can access and it's totally inappropriate to make access to the required healthcare conditional on overcoming and recanting from years of conditioning that female-coded words don't have to apply. I do not agree with that mindset but if that "gestating person" is going to be too traumatised by hearing words like "mother" "breast" etc accurately applied to their body that they avoid healthcare settings then that is actively harmful. The nurses and midwives need to prioritise the wellbeing of the baby and mother and if that can only be achieved in that specific instance by them being able to switch to sex-neutral language then that's the right thing to do.

Doesn't have to mean that any non-deluded women have to have their information in sex-neutral gobbledegook. It shouldn't be "normalised" and certainly should never be used to validate a male person's deluded attempts to mimic female biology. But the women who think they are men need it and banning it will harm them and their babies.

So to highlight World Maternal Mental Health Day, the Newcastle upon Tyne hospitals put out a poster that is so exclusionary it excludes women when talking about women's mental health in relation to pregnancy?

That's about as fucking offensive as you can get. I do hope that is picked up by the press - the useful idiots who produced and signed off on that deserve all the criticism there is for that.

Well done @DahliaStar for complaining. Is that on twitter yet?

I can't speak for anyone else,but it's genderborg arse juice that I'm against.

@Betterifido when I saw this change I unfollowed on their social media channels! Bloody disgrace!

What does 'maternal' mean, wonder? 🤔

Absolutely no coherency to this ridiculous ideology. Even the devotees can't get it right.