'Chestfeeding' to be banned in NHS crackdown

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Victoria Atkins is going to demand that NHS trusts stop using terms like chestfeeding, according to the Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/27/nhs-to-limit-trans-ideology-with-new-constitution/

Using words for their intended meaning is not compelled speech. It's using a fucking dictionary.

Compelled speech is authoritarian pomo bollocks rewriting the bloody dictionary so noone understands the meaning.

The whole point is plain simple English that as many people can understand without having to have a degree in word salad 'diversity training' because that's about as elitist as it gets.

Compelled speech is making people say words contrary to reality or their long established meaning and understanding by consensus not directive from a dictatrory individual or institution.

HTH.

My drs used the term natal women when it came to smear tests, they further clarified that everyone with xx chromosomes who considers themselves transgender should arrange an appointment to talk to the nurse to confirm whether they still need testing.

Well said

Thank fuck for that! Now it’s just got to actually happen…

Being thick here...why can't you say breastfeeding?

lol. Ensuring the NHS stop using made up words like chest feeding and body feeding isn't compelled speech 😄

Although I do realise that all those creepy lactation fetishists will be a tad put out.

Good. I hope if Labour win power at the next election they also continue this preservation of the rights of women. Chestfeeding terms have no place in the NHS.

Oh, be kind.

Ministers are very good at writing strongly worded letters, and public funded organisations are very good at putting them in the bin, knowing ministers will be blamed if anything goes wrong.

They are also heavily mangling the word 'fact' here.

Women’s bodies are miraculous. We menstruate, ovulate, grow children inside us, make milk, and babies suckle on us for sustenance.

The mechanics and complexities that Co-create these miracles are a fucking wondrous biological symphony.

Chest feeding is the most two dimensional example of pastiche out of all of this fucking nonsense.

It’s sad and laughable in equal measure. Pathetic in the true sense. And it’s a sad little insult to life itself.

Yeah. I breastfed my babies and in the NCT, hospital etc, that was the word that everyone used.
I've seen a couple of IBCLC use 'chest feed' in a limited context meaning that if a trans man prefers to use that word about their body then they would support that person in that way, in they same way they supported me with breastfeeding.
The Tories want to make this into a culture war.

Yep. I dont trust Starmer any further than I can piss. Any party that has Kate Osbourne in it, and allowed without let or hindrance to spout the kind of utter, utter bollocks that would be an embarrassment to a teenager is not to be trusted. Has Rosie seen even a sniff of an apology yet? Its almost as if neither WPATH or Cass had happened, or something.

Cos a bunch of activists colonised political parties and bullied the NHS into this quasi-religious ballcocks to be inclusive. As if you can be inclusive of males into breastfeeding. It's not about transmen either. No one gives a fuck about them unless they serve the interests of transwomens validation process.

@RedToothBrush Thanks for explaining. That's absolutely ridiculous and insulting. I'm a breastfeeder (an extended one - daughter is 3).

Really? Because some people think (wrongly, as it happens) that 'breast' is a gendered word and excludes transmen, and possibly those very rare transwomen who take a cocktail of hormones to enable them to produce 'induced lactation'.

Chestfeeding (i.e. gender neutral term for breastfeeding) was, for a long time, solely associated with maternity in cisgender women (i.e. individuals who were assigned female gender at birth and identify as a woman). However, this has increasingly been put into question due to increasing availability and visibility of non-puerperal lactation induction in mothers of adopted children, partners in same-sex relationships and biological mothers of a surrogate pregnancy [1], and puerperal lactation in transgender and gender diverse individuals [2]. Transgender women (i.e. individuals assigned male gender at birth (AMAB) and who affirm their gender as female) and non-binary individuals who are AMAB may wish to chestfeed their infants and constitute a growing population. They may do so through non-puerperal lactation induction [3,4,5].
https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1

We are. And this just returns things to correct ‘language’ and normal ‘speech’ as opposed to dystopian women-erasing nonsense.

So relieved to hear this news. It's been astounding that the NHS agreed to call women the most insulting names

I just hope they follow through with it!

Quite right too.

I wish the government would enforce these decisions on the regulators. If Ofsted, CQC, etc had to fail schools and hospitals on their inspections because of partisan political ideologies in their literature, policies, treatment plans and curricula, I think things would change much faster.

Imagine a school having a practice Ofsted inspection where they are told "you will fail the inspection because your policies allow for social transition without clinical advice, and this isn't compliant with the Cass Report". Or a hospital is told "if the word chestfeeding appears then you will fail your inspection". That policy is going to be changed in double quick time before their inspection happens.

Great. Who wouldn't want a lactation coach in denial about who produces breast milk? If they used the terms human milk and body feeding near me I wouldn't completely trust myself to stay civil.

I won't celebrate yet.

There is a big push of Tories out there in the media saying the things that appeal to their voters with no real danger of having to follow through.

We like words to mean what they’re supposed to mean and object to misleading terminology imposed as the result of people thinking that normal language constitutes some form of aggression or violence.

And they don't even invite ' anyone' with a cervix , it's a rather limited age group.

Edit- it's over 25 and under 64