There's nothing I can do about this, is there?

[Acunningruse]

Visited a different city today for work and went to a branch of Caffè Nero. I was served by what was very clearly a man, despite his attempt to look female and the fact he was wearing a she/her badge. Said man was wearing extremely tight leggings which, as he was wearing a waist-length t-shirt, meant his manhood was obviously visible. His appearance was a source of mumbling/muttering in the queue and he seemed to be enjoying the attention with a lot of hair-flicking.

I m not able to articulate why this made me so uncomfortable- other than the fact that no way in hell would I want to share a bathroom or changing room with this person.

But there's nothing at all to be done, is there? As any objection would surely be met with accusations of "discrimination " and "be kind".

Just so so frustrating. I just wanted to scream "you are not a woman!!!!" But I can't, can I.

Go to the press. The tide is turning; ride the wave while it’s cresting.

Ignore the idiots on here that are determined to find nothing wrong with what you describe. The majority of decent people are SO over this bullshit.

I'm nit trying to spook OP just to take heed of she does do it.

Some of the "allies " of this chap will be like religious zealots and she just needs to make sure she looks after herself that's all.

That said I am well with OP on taking a stand against This Shit

Gah fucking typos

Any news, OP?

I'm as fucked off as you.

So I asked for my complaint to be escalated yesterday, and today I received a response from the area manager herself asking what the issue is.... bearing in mind I've now stated 3 times what the issue is, my response was a little terse.

I thought people with sex dysphoria tried to hide their sex characteristics, not put them on display?

I know my views and many on this board do not align but I absolutely agree with you here.

They do which is why the fetishists have campaigned to make it transphobic to suggest that being trans means someone has a problem with any part of their body. Much harder to get off making women uncomfortable if you have to hide your penis.

I haven't read the full thread, but to make one point.

This man 'identifies' as a woman and wants us to call him by female pronouns. Yet at the same time is making the existence of his penis clear for everyone to see.

How is this anything other than bringing his fetish to work? And why in the name of all that's holy, should society be accepting of it?

Fab post, Sound of Sirens. Would you mind if I copied and pasted parts of it to use in communication with my MP and various other policical representatives? You are very clear on the way that transgender ideology has been leapt on by fetishists and I really want to have that to hand to copy and paste the next time an opportunity arises to draw attention to this.

@Abeona it looks to have been deleted?

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I have to wonder just how impartial MN is? Would you be able to post the gist of it again rephrased please? I missed it. Would that be allowed under the rules?

Damn: too late. I was waiting for the okay. What on earth in that post could have been deemed unacceptable? The Sound of Sirens, I am really fucking furious about this. I got deleted three times the other day for saying things that others were saying. Complaint going in to MNHQ.

Love that OP! How can it not be violation of uniform to have genitals early on display!!

Weekend mods are often more delete-happy than the main Mon-Friday office hours crew. If you want to challenge a deletion it’s probably worth waiting til Monday.

Will this man be working this weekend when there are more children calling there?

Some people would say it goes over their heads but IME kids often pick up on something different and won't hesitate to call it out. My DD and DGD have said out loud what many adults would be too polite to quite a few times. They've also picked up an uncomfortable atmosphere among adults. Kids can be embarrassing at times 😁

I wonder if a child commenting on this man's display would be deemed transphobic? Probably.

Caffe Nero will be losing my custom if the OP's complaints aren't taken seriously. At least Starbucks did something about their problem employee, but that was all over SM so I suppose they had to.

If the area manager is a bust, OP, I'd be posting a photo (with his face blurred) on SM. It would be interesting to see how seriously the higher-ups take it then.

I think I would have been more explicit in the email, the genitalia on display is clearly cock & balls / penis & testicles

Yeah, that would be really rude of you. You can't go around telling people that the way they look makes you feel angry.

Not read the whole thread no?

It's 11 pages long. I'm responding to the original post.

The person who is complaining about a man wearing inappropriate clothing showing outlined genitalia in a setting where children could be and where it is inappropriate to wear such clothing (a coffee shop), is rude.

But not the man wearing inappropriate boundary pushing clothing where he shouldn't be. That's not rude.

Yeah we see you mate. Just like the other thread.

I've had people be rude about the fact that I can't wear a bra. We are adults. Are we not used to human bodies yet?