Does anyone else not care if a 'hate incident' is recorded against them?

[WallaceinAnderland]

For some people it will mean absolutely nothing. Especially older people with no intention of applying for a job.

What does is really matter? They don't tell you so it's not going to worry you. There's no crime so you haven't broken the law. There's no fine, prosecution or imprisonment.

It's a non crime.

Personally I don't mind if it's recorded somewhere that I did not commit a crime.

Obviously people in work who need a clear DBS will be frightened into submission by this law but there must also be lots of us who aren't?

Don't forget that according to the Police Scotland 'rules' cross dressing is covered. So any of you,who like me,wear mens work wear,T shirts,boots,or anything similar are now 'protected' by the new hate speech laws.😉
Therefore,don a man's hat and report away.

If we all identify as non binary we're covered.

Could I identify as a transwoman and report my hurt feelz?

Ooh, I'm sitting here in an M&S men's hoodie, the warmest thing I possess (of course, since men get better quality clothes...). So that's me covered.

Don't see why not.

IW is currently identifying as both trans and cis so...

They were against the covid vaccine mandates.

If it’s good enough for Mr W then it’s good enough for me - a non binary transwoman it is.

They were protesting their government's covid lockdown measures and mandates.

Hang on a sec. If anything that is read in Scotland is deemed to be published in Scotland. And most of these hate incidents will be the written word. And the words have to be read by the Scottish police themselves to know a thing has happened. Then everything reported will have been published in Scotland. Because a Scottish copper will have read them to note down the wrong think.

do I have that right?

I’m more concerned for the men who think they can become women and vice Versa.

Oh I thought you'd done a survey to gather their views. What you mean is you disagreed with their behaviour, which was to protest against cross border COVID vaccine rules?

Who is the hate monster

This thing!

Good point! So all terven worldwide can help overload the system.

That's what I'm banking on. I'm going to send the tweets anonymously using the form they provide and ask for them to investigate homophobia, criticism of religion and anything else I can shoe horn in. Keep them busy.

I expect all anonymous reports will go straight in the bin but presumably will still show up in data somewhere.

I've still got a couple of questions.

So, the crime can be committed outside Scotland, but because the publication is read in Scotland it counts as a crime in Scotland.

What about the "victim"? Do they have to be in Scotland? And does the report have to be made by the person who is the "victim" of the hate crime, or can anyone do it? Can I read something in Scotland, written by someone in England about someone else in England, and make a complaint about it to the Scottish police?

As PP pointed out, you can read something in England, written by someone in England about someone else in England, and make a complaint about it to the Scottish police, because in the course of reading your complaint they will have caused it to be “published” in Scotland.

The report does not have to be made by the 'victim'. Anyone can snitch.

In fact Police Scotland positively encourage it by allowing you to report anyone in the whole world anonymously, as many times as you like, all from the comfort of your own armchair.

How they ever thought this was going to work well is beyond me. And how much money have they spent dreaming up this stupid law.

by about ten past midnight on April the first the Scottish Babylon will be wondering what the hell just hit them. I dont see them having the person (non binary, et at) power to address anything other than responding to a mass outbreak of people giving others funny looks.

by about ten past midnight on April the first the Scottish Babylon will be wondering what the hell just hit them.

Indeed. I wonder if they'll be paying overtime to the specially trained officers? Or do you think they're depending on a mass of volunteer PCSOs to perform these tasks? I'm sure that's a crowdsource task in the making.

I can’t remember if anyone else has mentioned this but what are the GDPR/Data Security implications and requirements for the non-police station reporting centres?

Are they entering the data into devices with secure log-ins and is the information stored securely in situ or online?

Have they taken steps to ensure there is secure physical access to the information?

Have they set aside confidential spaces to discuss the information/complaints rather than in front of other customers?

Is confidentiality regarding the data gathered a part of staff contracts?

Will the salmon, sex, and/or mushroom farms be open to act as reporting stations?

Will the Police servers be able to cope with the post-midnight surge? Will they have to pay the Police IT staff a small fortune?

I intend to identify as trans and report my hurty feelz.

Is it only things said/written on or after the 1st that can be reported, or does it include anything and everything written up until now? Just so I know what I can report.

It's unclear, Sirchenjins. I suppose we.will find out in due course.