Woke change to England flag.

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Surely flags are flags but no Nike did a 'playful update' adding trans colours to the England football kit.

Imagine changing the flag of others countries!

What is it with companies like Nike that they have to push trans down everyone's throats.

The 2012 England kit also had the cross in a variety of different colours and no-one batted an eyelid.

People have become a lot more fragile in the last 10 years or so, I guess.

https://talksport.com/football/1799599/england-umbro-nike-flag-change/amp/

To some of us it is just a flag

And it's not even a flag.

On the jersey is a motif derived from an element of the flag. I suppose it just so happens that the cross is basically the only element of the flag.

People have asked if this would have been done with the flag of the USA, for example. It was done. The star, an element of that flag, was used as a motif on the women's jersey, and it was in gold. There is no gold in their flag. People will say that the stars were in gold to denote the team's wins, but nevertheless it's an element of the flag used as a motif in a colour not found on the flag. It's not the flag. It's not representative of the flag. Just a motif that, I suppose, alludes to the flag of the USA (and maybe to a sense of being from that country?).

I've not read every post on this thread, but hopefully everybody has calmed down by now about the colours being the colours of the trans flag.

Regardless of what it is I believe no one has a right to change the flag of a country for whatever reason. Ridiculous to think that anyone can do this.

No one is changing the flag though. This is a design inspired by it.

That's wrong. It's the Union Jack or Union Flag.
I regularly see comments that it's only a 'jack' if at sea. The Admiralty, in near ancient history, confirmed that the Union Jack is the flag of the United Kingdom and this has been confirmed in Parliament on several occasions over the last 150 years when questions have been asked.
Union Jack or Union Flag can be used interchangeably.

I'm just. surprised we aren't seeing the Union Jack modified so it has the colours of the 'Palestinian Flag'.

'People have become a lot more fragile in the last 10 years or so, I guess.'

I agree.

Everything little thing is seized upon as a culture war to sob and wail over.

Embarrassing bloody nonsense.

Brush it under the carpet as much as you like. People are fed up, not sensitive.
You've got your fingers in your ears pretending it's not happening.

At least, we're talking about an actual abstract concept.

The sensitive ones are those who think reality is an abstract concept!

Have you nothing better to do?

Is this massively different to how the Conservative Party in Scotland “playfully work“ St Andrew’s cross in their logo?

The colours are supposed to be a nod to the shirt worn by the 1966 World Cup winning squad, isn't it? That's was the FA have said.

Where has all this 'trans' stuff come from? Some right-wing loon like Joey bloody Barton?

I couldn't get angry about this for a second.

Did it?

That’s the 2012-2013 strip, I mean 2011-2012.

And I’ve already posted an article that contains images of it.

The flag is always being messed with. Adding text and symbols
Its a design

I really can't get worked up about it.

No pink or purple cross on the 66 training kit either - the FA quote seems to refer to the stripes?

I seem to have missed it! Off to try and find it now (although I actually posted two different years already).

It's nothing to do with England or the cross of St George. It looks like a liquorice allsort gone wrong.

From a marketing point of view, It's up there with the disastrous rebranding of British Airways tail fins in 1997.

I forecast it will be quietly dumped and replaced by the real flag. I give it three weeks. 😁

Why is this thread in FWR?

I understood the colours were those of a previous year's training strip. Nothing to do with any sex or gender matters.

This one?

https://www.truecoloursfootballkits.com/2012/03/13/england-2012-home-kit-review/

Some annoyance at the lack of blue but no St George’s flag?

I don't believe Nike purposely did this to add in GenderFluid colours, but today people are aware of companies doing the rainbow thing to all sorts of logos and are getting fed up with it.

This is the straw that broke the camel's back.

found it! It’s the collar on the 2011 away kit and it’s also an ugly design that is unrecognisable as a St George’s cross (but at least it’s still in the recognisable England colour palette of red/white/blue)

https://www.footballkitarchive.com/england-2011-away-kit/

I would deffo have complained about this in 2011 but wasn’t online much as that was the year I got my first smartphone.

2011 was not nearly as ugly as this, mind you: