Labour Losing women

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Despite all the recent WPATH revelations and everythign else we now know Angela Eagle has just tweeted that the next Labour government will:

• Legislate for a trans-inclusive conversion therapy ban
• Make anti-LGBT+ hate crime an aggravated offence *Modernise Gender Recognition processes
• Appoint an international LGBT+ envoy

https://twitter.com/angelaeagle/status/1765795128407388651

I've always voted labour and still will. The Tories need to do go. In my humble opinion there are so many big issues that need urgent attention and the trans one just isn't a big deal to me and more or less every woman I know.

Hm. We have had childcare reform introduced in Scotland to much fanfare, and there have been many issues. For one, not enough qualified staff, so there is a risk of substandard care. For two, it seems a very neolib policy to me, to force mothers back to work asap instead of providing good maternity cover and helping parents to care for their young children. A perennial issue within feminism, I suppose, and goes right to the heart of whether we are focussing on economics or also considering other issues.

It may well help the economy, by monetising the care of infants. And perhaps make women better off financially. There are other effects, too, though.

Hadn't heard about the 999 service, sounds interesting.

You'll be in prison or unable to use services, but you can lie in your cell reflecting on your childcare options.

Not all the victims will be women. Most, but not all.

what? and the tories are celebrating them? bullshit
Dont act like the tories are a viable option and neither is ‘spoiling your vote’ as it falls into the hands of the tories who have fucked everyone over and not just women

Right on, all these selfish women expecting time off for childbirth.

You'll be in prison or unable to use services or sleeping rough, but you can rejoice in the fact that other, able bodied women are better off financially.

There should be equal amounts of parental leave for both parents in a two parent family so that they can share parenting duties equally. This should not just be a women's issue.

One thing women can be sure of is that Labour are NOT on their side.

Their partner should be off too, to support them and focus on being a new parent. It's very regressive to argue for primary care in the early years to fall to women, left alone at home.

"BUT THE TORIES....."

Tell me all about Labour. I'm all ears. Willing to be convinced.

Breastfeeding is also regressive, I know. Biology is so old fashioned.

Can you point me to these Labour policies, pls?

I feel like I've got into the TARDIS and stepped out into the 1950s. I thought this was supposed to be a feminist forum.

I don't believe they are. I was talking about policies I'd like to see.

There should be equal amounts of parental leave for both parents in a two parent family so that they can share parenting duties equally. This should not just be a women's issue.

Tell me you've never given birth without telling me you've never given birth.

Ooh Angela eagle has been paid tens of thousands of pounds by trans supporters. And you say Tories are corrupt

I'm waiting to see what their gender policies actually are. I am also writing to my labour party candidate about my concerns on this issue. If Labour do not put the protection of women and girls above access to women only spaces by men who identify as women then I absolutely will not vote for them. I will never vote Tory and may well end up spoiling my ballot paper.

The full manifesto isnt published yet but the aim is around improving the quality and availability of provision.

I suppose my view would be that a conservative government will carry the same expectation of a swift return to work when structuring benefits and maternity rights but is less likely to ensure the quality of childcare and availability of childcare is there. This is based on thier recent changes to expected working hours of benefit claimants and the mess of the 'free hours' which seems to be reducing availability and costing parents more. Then comparing it to the sure start centre i was able to use and the 'old' expectstions of hours to work

It'd be great to set all manifesto promises side by side when published to see how approaches differ.

What's that Mumsnet advice about we can never be sure that everyone on mumsnet is who they say they are?

Denying the reality of women's bodies, claiming safeguarding expertise while posting comments that display profound ignorance of safeguarding, denying women's biological reality of pregnancy and birth. Challenging women for failing to protest about the imprisonment of rapists, murderers paedophiles etc and throwing about comments like "anti trans" and transphobic?

I know who makes comments like that and they're not feminists or any friend to women and children. 😎

I'm an adult human female who doesn't believe people can change sex. How on earth can they, realistically. People can wear dresses (it's always dresses) or identify as a chair for all I care but get the men out of our spaces and sports. All men.

Equal parental leave in not a controversial or an anti feminist idea. I think if you probe a bit you very easily uncover how not feminist gender critical feminism really is. Who really argues, in 2024, for women to be left home alone, doing all the childcare? It's unbelievable.

I am a woman and a feminist. Radical and gender critical feminism has always represented a minority of feminists, because what most women want is choices and opportunities, not to be pigeonholed.

Wow! This is the most explicit yet from a senior Labour figure, isn't it? After what seems to have been lately, if not reverse-ferreting, at least a bit of backing down? You can fuck off to the far side of fuck, Angela, and then fuck off some more.

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