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Waitwhat23 · 01/03/2024 13:53

stealtheatingtunnocks · 01/03/2024 09:33

I’ve read that Andrew Burns was repeatedly assessed by psychiatrists. He wasn’t mentally ill, none of the psychiatrists found there was anything wrong with him at all, that’s why he was not moved to a secure hospital.

the only reason he wasn’t in a woman’s prison is because if the work of KPSS and FWS and many others.

it came very close here to us having another dangerous man in the female estate. I say “another” because Paris Green is a vicious murderer who used to ,for years,have to be moved to the male estate for having sex with inmates. I assume the subtext is that those inmates were raped but chose not to pursue charges.

Scotland is becoming a dangerous place for women.

Or this guy, who up until last year was in the female prison estate -

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658

This is why it's so bizarre seeing posters claim that 'of course a violent male offender wouldn't be transferred to the female prison estate'....

....they were already in there.

Trans Scots killer identifying as infant demands nappies and baby food in jail

Sophie Eastwood, formerly Daniel, is demanding nappies to wear and food to be blended like a baby's and has already been supplied with a dummy at Polmont prison.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658

ValerieDoonican · 01/03/2024 13:54

Working in prisons is a thankless task - I'd like to thank them now for keeping us safe from Scott (and others) at considerable risk to themselves. Keeping him safe - whether from himself or others we don't know - was likely impossible.

Hear hear.

betterangels · 01/03/2024 14:06

Trans Scots killer now identifying as infant

Wtf is this madness?

ScrollingLeaves · 01/03/2024 14:11

ArabellaScott · 29/02/2024 19:20

Tiffany Scott was a man from the day he was born til the day he died. At least women prisoners in Scotland won't have to worry he'll be transferred in with them anymore.

Was he killed?
He sounded a menace to everyone.

( It was difficult to read the article because it kept jumping with ads.)

DuesToTheDirt · 01/03/2024 14:12

@AuContraire And why is the BBC article opening with "A violent transgender prisoner" rather than "a woman" like they did with Scarlet Blake, who is also a dangerous, violent man.

It is indeed a mystery - I can't see how they can justify the difference. Really, though, never mind "transgender prisoner", they should just go with "man".

NigellaAwesome · 01/03/2024 14:56

I wonder if any academic studies have been done on whether levels of dark triad personality traits are higher in those claiming to be transgender than the rest of the population, particularly mtf (as I believe ftm is a different psychological mechanism altogether, lots of autistic girls, a response to the extreme misogyny & pornography of our society etc).

Narcissism and psychopathy seem to feature highly in many cases, and machiavellainism is almost a text book definition of how so many of these men manipulate the system and people for their own ends.

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2024 14:58

They have and they do, Nigella. Can't link rn but there is research into exactly this

RoyalCorgi · 01/03/2024 14:59

Musomama1 · 01/03/2024 11:14

Why is Tiffany Scott being reported as being transgender, but the cat killer reported as being a woman?

This makes the cat killer story look even more ridiculous.

It makes no sense. But I think the probable explanation is that Scarlet Blake was referred to as a woman in court, and therefore the BBC and other outlets followed suit.

Once a man has been put in a men's prison, then perhaps even the BBC thinks it's ridiculous to maintain the fiction that he's a woman.

But who knows, really?

AuContraire · 01/03/2024 17:57

DuesToTheDirt · 01/03/2024 14:12

@AuContraire And why is the BBC article opening with "A violent transgender prisoner" rather than "a woman" like they did with Scarlet Blake, who is also a dangerous, violent man.

It is indeed a mystery - I can't see how they can justify the difference. Really, though, never mind "transgender prisoner", they should just go with "man".

It's useful to have the " who identifies as a transgender woman" me tinned too though, we wouldn't want to lose the opportunity to track the disproportionately high number of men who claim to he women who are also extremely dangerous/predatory.

Just saying "man" wouldn't allow that.

TathingScinsel · 01/03/2024 18:09

I’m rethinking my previous speculation re: potential officer restraint incident.

This 2018 article has Scott swallowing a pen and perforating his bowel in some sort of compo scam - if he tried something similar in 2024 he’d likely be waiting for an ambulance so long as to seriously impede his chances of recovery, so I’m now thinking it may well have been self harm, but not with suicidal intent?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-inmate-sues-11857050.amp

Dangerous inmate sues jail bosses for £30k after deliberately swallowing pen

Transgender criminal Tiffany Scott suffered a ­perforated bowel after accusing guards of giving her pen when she was suicide risk.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-inmate-sues-11857050.amp

TathingScinsel · 01/03/2024 18:10

Good to see Peen News are still sticking by their self ID principles though!

Tiffany Scott has died in prison
DuesToTheDirt · 01/03/2024 18:19

AuContraire · 01/03/2024 17:57

It's useful to have the " who identifies as a transgender woman" me tinned too though, we wouldn't want to lose the opportunity to track the disproportionately high number of men who claim to he women who are also extremely dangerous/predatory.

Just saying "man" wouldn't allow that.

Very true.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 01/03/2024 21:36

stealtheatingtunnocks · 01/03/2024 09:33

I’ve read that Andrew Burns was repeatedly assessed by psychiatrists. He wasn’t mentally ill, none of the psychiatrists found there was anything wrong with him at all, that’s why he was not moved to a secure hospital.

the only reason he wasn’t in a woman’s prison is because if the work of KPSS and FWS and many others.

it came very close here to us having another dangerous man in the female estate. I say “another” because Paris Green is a vicious murderer who used to ,for years,have to be moved to the male estate for having sex with inmates. I assume the subtext is that those inmates were raped but chose not to pursue charges.

Scotland is becoming a dangerous place for women.

Paris Green is a vicious murderer who used to ,for years,have to be moved to the male estate for having sex with inmates. I assume the subtext is that those inmates were raped but chose not to pursue charges.

I would argue that all "sex" in prison should be presumed to be rape. The ability of a prisoner to say "no" and have that respected is basically zero because they have no ability to lock the rapist out of where they sleep and shower and no ability to flee, move house, or any of the other "nasty people avoidance" measures that we on the outside take for granted.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 01/03/2024 21:38

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2024 11:09

Do you know what happens if someone archives another version of a previously archived item? Can you still access the first version or is it overwritten?

Usually both copies are kept. They are on archive.org, unless they paint an even-remotely unflattering view of trans people, in which case the SJW site owner nukes them.

LuluBlakey1 · 01/03/2024 21:39

Good news. One less horror in the world.

Hoardasauruskaren · 01/03/2024 22:17

TathingScinsel · 01/03/2024 18:09

I’m rethinking my previous speculation re: potential officer restraint incident.

This 2018 article has Scott swallowing a pen and perforating his bowel in some sort of compo scam - if he tried something similar in 2024 he’d likely be waiting for an ambulance so long as to seriously impede his chances of recovery, so I’m now thinking it may well have been self harm, but not with suicidal intent?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-inmate-sues-11857050.amp

Quite possibly! TS was admitted to hospital several times in recent years for swallowing various objects! I’m just relieved I will never have to encounter this vile specimen who caused so much trouble in the hospital I work in!

PurpleSparkledPixie · 01/03/2024 22:42

A Police Scotland spokesperson said that at around 10.50pm on Wednesday, the force was made aware of a 32-year-old taking unwell at HMP Grampian.

So not a fight or ambush.

Rightsraptor · 02/03/2024 00:44

I read reports of a 32 yo woman dying.

I wondered who they were talking about and why a woman was in a male prison. Then the penny dropped ...

ImNotAGoodGirlImABadWoman · 02/03/2024 19:07

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 29/02/2024 22:18

Following your logic, when he identified as Obi Wan Kenobi, he was really a Jedi Master.

More biased reporting from the previous decade…….https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/dangerous-obi-wan-kenobi-guilty-of-prison-attacks-1086448

The court was told that at the time, prison staff were complying with her requests that she should be known within the jail as Mr Mighty Almighty.

You’ve got to be kidding me.

Froodwithatowel · 02/03/2024 19:26

If you've got a guy that dangerous and difficult and you have to spend your shift keeping him and everyone else from GBH, and he's only one of the complex violent men you've got responsibility for, then you probably are willing to call him anything he wants to be called to prevent any preventable kick off. And avoid everyone else having to stay locked in their cells for hours while you and a team in riot gear try to get him calmed down. There's another male with a TQ+ identity in prison who currently identifies as a little girl and requires to be led around by the hand by prison guards to keep him happy.

Baldieheid · 02/03/2024 20:09

It's a narcissists charter, isn't it?

They're all Verucca Salt. Or that character played by wee Bonnie Langford.
"I'll thkweem and thkweem until I'm thick".

Violet Elizabeth Bott...just looked her up.

TathingScinsel · 03/03/2024 15:13

Good comments, Frood I was just thinking about how much the absence of this inmate must’ve improved the quality of working life for those who have had to keep him restrained or treat his self inflicted injuries for the last decade +

All premature deaths are regretful, and all death in custody should be avoided wherever possible (eg i don’t generally see the value in keeping doddery old prisoners locked up through end of life care, especially if they clearly cannot reoffend, eg drug smugglers or armed robbers) but that doesn’t mean that a great deal of relief won’t be felt amongst a profession that is already overworked and underpaid, especially considering the danger to their own personal wellbeing the job entails.

Most recent article say death is as yet ‘unexplained’, in recent years unexplained deaths of young males often turn out to be caused by fentanyl.
Drugs are not as unattainable in prison as one would hope…

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/death-of-transgender-prisoner-tiffany-scott-treated-as-unexplained-by-police

Death of transgender prisoner Tiffany Scott treated as ‘unexplained’ by police

Convicted stalker Tiffany Scott, 32, of HMP Grampian, died on Thursday after becoming unwell and being taken to hospital.

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/death-of-transgender-prisoner-tiffany-scott-treated-as-unexplained-by-police

TathingScinsel · 03/03/2024 15:14

Hoardasauruskaren · 01/03/2024 22:17

Quite possibly! TS was admitted to hospital several times in recent years for swallowing various objects! I’m just relieved I will never have to encounter this vile specimen who caused so much trouble in the hospital I work in!

Best wishes to you and all your very relieved colleagues!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 03/03/2024 15:51

Thirty-two is no age to die, but I wonder what prospects there were for him. He couldn't ever have been released because he was so incredibly dangerous. Was he going to end up like Robert Maudsley, who has been kept in solitary confinement in a purpose-built cell for over 40 years?

Robert Maudsley

'Hannibal the cannibal's' grim life - glass box, concrete bed, 16,500 days alone

Serial killer Robert Maudsley - dubbed Hannibal the Cannibal - spends 23 hours of the day inside a bulletproof cell in Wakefield Prison with a concrete bed and no TV or pets

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hannibal-cannibal-robert-maudsleys-grim-32213159

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